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[o d <negiliblek@yahoo.com>]

Lawrence,

I'm not  a learned guru by any means but here are my suggestions:

1- use ubuntu 6.06 if your looking for an easy distro to install
       why ubuntu?  

 I personally like slackware 10.2 and Knoppix 3.7, but I have installed 
Mandrake (now Mandriva) for my 70yr old father and ubuntu for my 26 yr old 
sister.
My father loves the fact he hasn't had a single virus infection or other 
issue since I set him up four years ago.

ubuntu amazed me -I like to use Knoppix for ease of use, but ubuntu is what 
I'd recommend to anyone who "just wants it to work" OS desktop.

2A- You need to specifiy whether or not you have space left on your harddrive 
and what the current file system that WinXP is using ( it's most likely NTFS 
but I've seen it installed with FAT32).

2B- I've partitioned my laptop so that XP got 10GB and Linux got 10GB (if you 
want a lot of Linux apps and data space, I recommend at least 10GB). You can 
get by with WAY less space, but I'm telling you, you'll eventually want all 
the cool apps that open source offers you (including the free GIS package 
GRASS).

If you have a 2.0 USB port, and your computer's BIOS will allow you to boot 
off of removeable media, install ubuntu on a external USB harddrive (or a 4GB 
USB jump drive for that matter).

3A- Linux distros can all read AND write SAFELY now to NFTS and always could 
to FAT32.  The short of it is you'll be able to read the NTFS and FAT32 while 
you're booted into Linux, but you won't be able to read or write to the Linux 
file systems (ext2, ext3, reiserfs and many more) from M$ WinXP unless you 
find a third party file system driver for Windows to read  your Linux file 
system.

3B- I'd recommend a reiserfs if you're going to use Linux for mail processing 
( reiserfs has a very small minimum file block and is journaled).  FAT32 is 
insecure, Linux writes slowly to NTFS. So if you're online with XP, don't use 
FAT32 even thought Linux can write quickly to FAT32.

4- Ubuntu comes with Firefox installed.  Saving your profile from a Windows 
box to a Linux box is doable, but I'd hafta play around with copies a few 
times (nice thing, copies -no fear) before I could step you through it.

5- Ubuntu has an easy application downloaded which would allow you to install 
ProcMail online.

6- Networking: Run Samba on ubuntu and simply make a share on your XP box; 
you'll be able to read both shares from both the XP box and the Linux box.  
Assuming, of course  you have the network equipment (wired or wireless) to 
setup a network.

Maybe you've found someone to help you already. If not, I'll be glad to help 
you step by step ( or screenshot by screenshot).    

-And that goes for others on this list also.




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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 02:37:43 -0400
From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." 
Subject: [permaculture] OT: need creative Linux install solutions on
 WinXP machine with lots of PC and SustAg info to manage (with Linux)
To: permaculture 

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Basically I need to do a Linux install on a Win XP machine where I already do 
all my email with Mozilla 1.7.8.

If I upgrade my workstation and need to reinstall Mozilla (or maybe TBird + 
Firefox instead) how do I get my old Mozilla 
profile to be recognized as current one with same filters and folders, all 
functional as before to keep on rolling.

The whole thingy with Mozilla and all Netscape superclones is so insecure, 
clumsy and sometimes difficult that I am 
considering installing Linux with email feed and postprocessing with 
Procmail, if I can get that installed. Is there a 
Linux version for a personal standalone workstation with easy email install 
plus an email filter or an easy way to 
install Procmail. I would probably opt for half email IDs in Win XP, the 
other half in Linux. Can/how can I share file 
systems between the 2 OS's on the same machine; just having the Linux side 
read the Win filesystem would suffice. I can 
copy Mozilla email folder files (the text ones) to a Linux Pine email client 
and read and process them just fine. How do 
I network 2 Win/Linux machines just to share file systems, not apps?

2 questions:
1) How to migrate my Mozilla profile (email, settings & mail folders) to a 
new machine with a new Mozilla (or 
TBird/Firefox) install.
2) What's a good Linux version to use with easy OS and email install; would 
be nice to use a web browser in Linux too.
3) How to get 2 Linux/Win boxes to share filesystems

Many thanks to the many learned gurus in this list for any help.

LL
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Lawrence F. London, Jr.
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