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["Lisa Rollens" <rollens@fidnet.com>]

Hi Michelle,

Any info on honey locust I would be more than interested in hearing about.
Please give my email to your friend!

 Lisa, in the Ozarks, USA
rollens@fidnet.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michelle Maggiore" <mmaggior@mindspring.com>
To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 6:41 PM
Subject: [permaculture] Honey Locustinfo


> Hello,
> my friend Andy Wilson  is an avid agroforester specializes in honey locust
> research, and would like to correspond with the person that asked the
> questions below from a few weeks ago:
>
>
> Marjory,
> > >
> > > I have pregnant sheep that ate the honey locust pods and also a cow.
> The
> > > horses eat the pods themselves from the ground under the trees.  I try
> to
> > > have the animals graze all winter without bought feed.  Was glad to
find
> > > that they liked the high protein (FREE) food!  Unfortunately the trees
> > > didn't produce pods this year...droughty spring and summer.  I will
> gather
> > > all I can find next fall.  There was just a website posted on this
> > > list....http://www.freetreesandplants.com ...that has thornless honey
> > > locust.  Not cheap if you want to plant a lot, but probably a good
> cause.  I
> > > don't know if they have good pods, tho.....I would like to know, too.
> > > Anybody else know???
> > >
> > > Lisa, in the Ozarks, MO,USA
> >
> I had forwarded him the message above, not realizing that  I had neglected
> to send the email addresses within it. In addition, he has a ton of
> information in honey locusts, and would like to post it in a public place,
> but alas, I am not one with great computer/database skills....does anyone
> have any recommendations on finding someone who can enter the data (a
person
> also interested in honey locust would be ideal) and where best to post it
> for free public access?
> Any information you can shareis greatly appreciated....thanks!
> Michelle Maggiore in Scottsville, VA, USA
>
>
>
>
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> > Graham wrote:
> > > The wikipedia article on permaculture
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture could do with some
attention,
> > > see the discussion page at
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> > > Anyone fancy having a go at doing some editing here in order to
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> > > a better encyclopedic article on the subject?
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> > > Cheers Graham
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> > Just created a Tree Bog article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_bog
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> > From: "Michael Burns" <burns@panix.com>
> > Subject: [permaculture] Intro to Permaculture, Finger Lakes, N.Y. USA
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> > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 07:57:51 +1100
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> > yes,
> >
> > A dear I think to replace manure in all cases.
> > any tree or ramp that produces a significant amount of biomass should be
> > suitable for mulching. However the trick he is to find a plant that not
> > only produces a significant amount of biomass but also provides some
> > secondary or tertiary outputs. So, for example, comfrey is quite a good
> > one, in its role as a dynamic accumulator. there is however no reason
> > the while this mulch should not come from a fruit bearing plant. So the
> > real difficulty or challenge is to incorporate multi purpose plants into
> > every aspect of design.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Niels
> >
> >
> > On 18/12/05, Vtrentals@aol.com <Vtrentals@aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > hello,
> > > nitrogen fixing
> > > would it be good sense to use non fruit bearing
> > > grasses, shrub and tree for mulching
> > > replacing manure
> > > Ag chip
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:28:26 -1000
> > From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net>
> > Subject: [permaculture] mulch/biomass plants
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> > Aloha,
> >
> > > any tree or ramp that produces a significant amount of biomass should
be
> > > suitable for mulching. However the trick he is to find a plant that
not
> > > only produces a significant amount of biomass but also provides some
> > > secondary or tertiary outputs. So, for example, comfrey is quite a
good
> > > one, in its role as a dynamic accumulator. there is however no reason
> > > the while this mulch should not come from a fruit bearing plant. So
the
> > > real difficulty or challenge is to incorporate multi purpose plants
into
> > > every aspect of design.
> >
> > Yeah, and, depends on what one has to start with and work with.
> >
> > Stuff that most people here consider "junk" and "weed" trees (and
> > grasses and bushes), I use as "free" mulch/biomass sources (cecropia and
> > albizia, melastoma, bamboo orchid, various non-native bunch/clump
> grasses).
> > They're already here, they grow and spread all by themselves in these
> > solid rock/almost no soil/acid conditions, and they make biomass.
> >
> > There may be (I dunno, pretty tough conditions) stuff I could plant that
> > would produce a bit more and/or better - maybe - but I'm sure happy
> > there's already stuff here I can use just by gathering/coppicing, even
> > if that's about the only function I get out of it.
> >
> > cheers,
> > John S.
> >
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