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  • From: "Michelle Maggiore" <mmaggior@mindspring.com>
  • To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: [permaculture] Honey Locustinfo
  • Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:41:07 -0500

Hello,
my friend Andy Wilson is an avid agroforester specializes in honey locust
research, and would like to correspond with the person that asked the
questions below from a few weeks ago:


Marjory,
> >
> > I have pregnant sheep that ate the honey locust pods and also a cow.
The
> > horses eat the pods themselves from the ground under the trees. I try
to
> > have the animals graze all winter without bought feed. Was glad to find
> > that they liked the high protein (FREE) food! Unfortunately the trees
> > didn't produce pods this year...droughty spring and summer. I will
gather
> > all I can find next fall. There was just a website posted on this
> > list....http://www.freetreesandplants.com ...that has thornless honey
> > locust. Not cheap if you want to plant a lot, but probably a good
cause. I
> > don't know if they have good pods, tho.....I would like to know, too.
> > Anybody else know???
> >
> > Lisa, in the Ozarks, MO,USA
>
I had forwarded him the message above, not realizing that I had neglected
to send the email addresses within it. In addition, he has a ton of
information in honey locusts, and would like to post it in a public place,
but alas, I am not one with great computer/database skills....does anyone
have any recommendations on finding someone who can enter the data (a person
also interested in honey locust would be ideal) and where best to post it
for free public access?
Any information you can shareis greatly appreciated....thanks!
Michelle Maggiore in Scottsville, VA, USA




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> yes,
>
> A dear I think to replace manure in all cases.
> any tree or ramp that produces a significant amount of biomass should be
> suitable for mulching. However the trick he is to find a plant that not
> only produces a significant amount of biomass but also provides some
> secondary or tertiary outputs. So, for example, comfrey is quite a good
> one, in its role as a dynamic accumulator. there is however no reason
> the while this mulch should not come from a fruit bearing plant. So the
> real difficulty or challenge is to incorporate multi purpose plants into
> every aspect of design.
>
> cheers,
> Niels
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> On 18/12/05, Vtrentals@aol.com <Vtrentals@aol.com> wrote:
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> > hello,
> > nitrogen fixing
> > would it be good sense to use non fruit bearing
> > grasses, shrub and tree for mulching
> > replacing manure
> > Ag chip
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> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:28:26 -1000
> From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net>
> Subject: [permaculture] mulch/biomass plants
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> Aloha,
>
> > any tree or ramp that produces a significant amount of biomass should be
> > suitable for mulching. However the trick he is to find a plant that not
> > only produces a significant amount of biomass but also provides some
> > secondary or tertiary outputs. So, for example, comfrey is quite a good
> > one, in its role as a dynamic accumulator. there is however no reason
> > the while this mulch should not come from a fruit bearing plant. So the
> > real difficulty or challenge is to incorporate multi purpose plants into
> > every aspect of design.
>
> Yeah, and, depends on what one has to start with and work with.
>
> Stuff that most people here consider "junk" and "weed" trees (and
> grasses and bushes), I use as "free" mulch/biomass sources (cecropia and
> albizia, melastoma, bamboo orchid, various non-native bunch/clump
grasses).
> They're already here, they grow and spread all by themselves in these
> solid rock/almost no soil/acid conditions, and they make biomass.
>
> There may be (I dunno, pretty tough conditions) stuff I could plant that
> would produce a bit more and/or better - maybe - but I'm sure happy
> there's already stuff here I can use just by gathering/coppicing, even
> if that's about the only function I get out of it.
>
> cheers,
> John S.
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