permaculture

[Graham <grahamburnett@blueyonder.co.uk>]

No disrespect meant, but;

What would Jesus say? What would Marx say? What would Ghandi say? What 
would Hitler say? What would 'Dick' Cheney say? Why do we keep on 
invoking the voices of 'the Wise'?

Who cares what the 'experts' say, lets start listening to the solutions 
of real people...

Lets not start from whether real life situations fit the definition of 
'permaculture', lets find permacultural solutions from folks who are in 
the cockpit...

Cheers Graham

Golden Love wrote:

> What would Bill Mollison say?  The whole city starts from a major flaw that
> requires billions of dollars and heavy machinery to keep it functioning.  Is
> this Permaculture?
>
> Golden
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of George
> Mogiljansky
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 10:15 AM
> To: permaculture
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Hurricane bioremediation
>
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>
> That part of NO located below sea level was developed
> as a result of the hubristic worship of cheap oil
> since the end of WWII. A false economic infrastructure
> was developed since then, one that will never return
> (based initially on light, sweet crude at US 5¢ (five
> cents) a barrel or US $20 (the previous stable price
> level). 
>
> If Permaculture can redeem the mistakes of the past,
> then I will support that redemption. But I am in
> Canada and not an engineer. If I could take a course,
> which one and where would it be?
>
> George 
>
>
>
>
> --- chauncey williams <chaunceyfree@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
> > You know what we all should do, everyone;
> > permaculturists, natural builders, eco-designers,
> > healers, etc. should all converge on New Orleans. 
> > This is our time to put our money where our mouth is
> > and show the world that there are positive things
> > that
> > you can do to help your fellow brothers and sisters.
> >
> > Together we could obtain some of the reconstruction
> > funding to bring New Orleans back as a model city
> > for
> > the world to aspire to.  One complete with community
> > and environmental safeguards.  The time to create
> > that
> > positive change in this world is already happening,
> > we
> > can't wait to let it go by.
> >
> > Chauncey
> >
> >
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> A huge part of the illusion surrounding the cheap oil era is that 
> the only alternative to modernity is the stone age.
>
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