permaculture

["Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>]

Anne Schwarz wrote:
> > Anne Schwarz wrote:
> > When we affect less desireable animals, the public's interest in 
> > preserving them flounders.  If we found out that deep sea squid were 
> > dying from oil exposure, would we care even if it wasn't our fault?
>
>
> > Ecologists, Zoologists, Marine Biologists, Taxonomists, Evolutionary 
> > Biologists,
> > most permaculturiats and regenerative, biological (see how deftly I 
> > avoided
> > using the "O" word) farmers would probably be very concerned
> > L.F.London
>
> Hello~
> Good point.  I would also like to personally thank you and the other 
> people who picked up this thread for having good, clean, intelegent 
> responsesto my comments, even on disagreeign points.  That being said...
>
> Perhaps my real question was "should we" instead of "would we."  Should 
> we be concerned with environmental factors that are truly not our fault 
> (such as oil being released from the bottom of the ocean).  The entire 

Yes, absolutely. We may need to be involved, especially as permaculturists, 
in terraforming
out own planet, i.e. repair damage we humans have done directly or 
indirectly, and damage cause by natural occurences,i.e.,
oil leakage from the ocean bottom. We have to maintain our nest, at all 
costs. Likewise we may need to
deal effectively with asteroids discovered to be headed for collision with 
Earth.
The advance in scientific knowledge should accompany legions of people 
involved in efforts of all sorts to
preserve and sustain our living environment; permaculurists, natural, 
regenerative biological farmers,
environmentalists, renewable energy/energy efficiency experts, architects and 
builders, conservation biologists and so on.

> human populace could be self-sustaining, but this phenomenon would still 
> be happening.  A less far-fetched example, perhaps, would concern the 
> ozone layer and the ongoing debate about how much/little we have to do 
> with it growing and healing large atmospheric holes.  Or global warming 
> for that matter, another highly debated topic.

> I guess my question is, if the planetary cycles are indeed responsible 
> for the damage, are we entitled to go around trying to fix it?  If we 

Sure.

> should, I can't understand being against genetically modified organisms, 
> thus the quandry...

Depends on which genetically modified organisms. Right?

> Anne
> Fighting the good fight for a clean, non-bickering debate....

Right on.

Much more later. This is a really great thread.

Anne: Look at out Permaculture Wiki, maybe contribute.
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pcwiki/index.php
Email me if you need help using it.
Hope to have a PC weblog running soon.

LL


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