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  • From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Re: Bob's post, what to call US,and systemic feedback
  • Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 01:02:55 -0700

Bob Howard wrote:


Bob:

How about giving it a rest. OK?

Thanks in advance.

LL

permaculture list owner




John Schinnerer wrote:


Aloha,


I actually think the real problem is that people were offended by my
spelling but they chose (with one query as an aside) not to question
this, preferring instead ...

If you're gonna complain about Keith's contrails post by calling it
'superstitious nonsense', I'd prefer that you just post exactly that - "I
think Keith's post about contrails is superstitious nonsense".



That's exactly what i said in my first post


Given the way you actually chose to respond to Keith's post, I don't think
anyone owes you any apologies.



What for being called a bigot - nobody has provided a substatnive reasdon for
this slander- least of all you


Own your opinions and be specific about what and/or whom you're referring
to in them. I like you better that way than when you make large-scale
assumptions about the indoctrination systems of other people and the
results thereof.

I find it especially ironic that you then post about "shambala warrior
code," "Mahayana Buddhism," etc. in your polemic - I assume you're aware
that to some folks that's just superstitious nonsense.



I was referring to ethics not belief


The reason I spell Amerikan this way is because I used to spell it this
way until the end of the Vietnam War as a way of not insulting the other
people who live on the continent since there is no other easy adjective
to use.

USA (acronym for United States of America) works just fine - specifies
which nation among the many in the Americas (both North and South) is
being referred to.


for you maybe



It's Wednesday night and I'm really tired and I've got a busy day
tomorrow but I'm sitting here typing because I think some people owe me
an apology for their cruel and careless name calling.

See above. You're not a victim, and I don't support you acting like one.
You're experiencing systemic feedback as a living system in a larger
context of interrelated living systems. I've found this to be a very good
learning experience in my life.



this is the most sententious crap that has been posted to date - you need to
examine your own conscience if you've got one. Accusing people of victimhood
without considering the rights or wrongs is patronizing and simply a way of
ignoring the issues.


cheers,
John S.

John Schinnerer, MA
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