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  • From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] roundup- scientific literature
  • Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:32:11 -0700

charles knoles wrote:


Hi Mark and all the rest,

I'm sure I'm not the only one on this list who disagrees with Mark on this issue but in general thinks he's a pretty rad guy and is glad that he can express himself on this list. Let's keep the ad hominems to a minimum and deal with the issues.

Mark, you said that you don't know of much research that shows roundup to be "all that bad". As it happens Dr Mabel Fisher, one of my professors did her Ph.D dissertation on the environmental effects of Glyphosate (roundup) and I am currently looking over her list of references to the scientific literature. From what I can gather there seems to be a fairly large body of scientific work that shows all sorts of negative environmental effects, from mutagenesis in animals to destruction of soil fungi,lower hatching rates in poultry, impairment of mating in aquatic organisms and impaired immune response, just to name a few of them. She also found that some of the main research publications showing roundup to be safe- including a world health organization report published in 1994- are primarily based on articles that were not published in peer reviewed journals but on studies that were produced/contracted and published by Monsanto.

Don't forget the polyacrylamide that is added to Roundup that gets on harvested crops and produces carcinogenic compounds when those crops are cooked. The cancer risk from eating cooked potatoes and bread containing acrylimide has been in the news recently. See the sanet-mg archive and Joe Cummins posts for much background on this: http://www.sare.org/htdocs/hypermail/index.html
Search for acrylamide, poly acrylamide, Joe Cummins or jcummins@UWO.CA to find the pertinent threads.
As for more on Roundup and risks from using it see a slightly dated FAQ I put together a while back at:
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pesticide-education/faqs/roundup.faq
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pesticide-education/faqs/
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pesticide-education/
I also have a FAQ on CCA pressure treated lumber:
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pesticide-education/faqs/pressure-treated-lumber.faq
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pesticide-education/faqs/
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pesticide-education/
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L.F.London
lfl@intrex.net
http://market-farming.com
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pcwiki/index.php/london






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