permaculture

["Robert Waldrop" <rmwj@soonernet.com>]

I have updated my Sustainable Oklahoma webzine with 82 new links, a
number of which might be interesting to people on this list,
especially the new section on plants for forest gardens, and some of
the biosurvey pages linked.

http://www.bettertimesinfo.org/oklahoma.htm

Robert Waldrop, Oklahoma City

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Innes & Joanna Pearsall <permaculture@eartheal.org.nz>
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Saturday, February 23, 2002 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Worms eat my crap? & more


>> > Actually they are not that different.
>> > Compost works with micro-organisms. Worms do not eat anything
other than
>> > micro-organisms,
>>
>> I thought they ate vegetable matter directly rather than waiting
for it
>> to decompose
>> through microbial action.
>>
>> > and they help the development of them too (Remember-
>>
>> In what way do they do that?
>> 1) add to the array of aerobic (or possibly anaerobic as well)
>> micro-organisms
>Yes . Worms require aerobic conditions. Basically (though I am not a
>micro-biologist- so this is simplified) a worm is a tube containing
millions
>of micro-organisms, they are able to secrete these bacteria etc.
through
>their skin, so the breakdown of the matter begins outside the
body.and
>that's is what the worm consumes.
>>
>> > Everything gardens!).Yes, the worms provide the environment for
the
>things that they consume to flourish. Ducks do the same- they eat the
flies
>that are attracted to their crap, we create gardens etc etc.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflondon@mindspring.com>
>To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2002 17:19
>Subject: Re: [permaculture] Worms eat my crap? & more
>
>
>> Bryan Innes & Joanna Pearsall wrote:
>>
>> > One thing I wanted to point out - the composting process and the
worm
>> > > composting method are qualitatively different ways processing
waste -
>that
>> > > is, one relies on the activity of micro-organisms, while the
other
>relies
>> > on worms to eat the stuff and create worm droppings.
>>
>> > Actually they are not that different.
>> > Compost works with micro-organisms. Worms do not eat anything
other than
>> > micro-organisms,
>>
>> I thought they ate vegetable matter directly rather than waiting
for it
>> to decompose
>> through microbial action.
>>
>> > and they help the development of them too (Remember-
>>
>> In what way do they do that?
>> 1) add to the array of aerobic (or possibly anaerobic as well)
>> microorganisms
>Yes . Basically (though I am not a micro-biologist- so this is
simplified) a
>worm is a tube containing millions of micro-organisms, they are able
to
>secrete these bacteria etc. through their skin, so the breakdown
begins
>outside the body.
>> that break down organic matter
>>
> 2) provide food (npk/micronutrients/pH moderation/moisture) for the
>> microorganisms?
>>
>> > Everything gardens!).Yes, the worms provide the envirionment for
the
>things that they consume to flourish. Ducks do the same- they eat the
flies
>that are attracted to their crap, we create gardens etc etc.
> It is still micro-organisms that are breaking down the
>> > organic matter.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
>> lflondon@mindspring.com - london@ibiblio.org
>> EcoLandTech - Permasphere - InterGarden
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech
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