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  • From: Michael Dean <mikedean.com@altavista.com>
  • To: permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu
  • Subject: Re: A Lttle Humour
  • Date: 14 Dec 2001 08:01:29 -0800


Gerry - nice try,

But the joke is ageist, attempts to find humour in the misfortune of others
and I have to say that I personally do not find the joke funny which of
course is a definite requirement if something is to be considered a joke.

So I find the joke not funny, ageist, and cruel!!

Sorry, the £10 is still on the table, but only for the next 7 days as the
clammer for the dosh will be just to great.

Yours in deep depression, Mike.

On Fri, 14 December 2001, "Gerry Hawkes" wrote:

>
> Mike -
>
> You don't need to send £ 10 (you probably weren't offering it to me anyway),
> but I think the following joke is applicable to the discussion and should
> offend no one. (unless they are an ass)
>
> Here goes (donate the £ 10 to charity):
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> The boy rode on the donkey and the old man walked. As they went along they
> passed some people who remarked it was a shame the old man was walking and
> the boy was riding. The man and boy thought maybe the critics were right,
> so they changed positions.
>
> Later, they passed some people that remarked, "What a shame, he makes that
> little boy walk" They then decided they both would walk! Soon they passed
> some more people who thought they were stupid to walk when they had a decent
> donkey to ride. So, they both rode the donkey.
>
> Now they passed some people that shamed them by saying how awful to put such
> a load on a poor donkey. The boy and man said they were probably right, so
> they decided to carry the donkey. As they crossed the bridge, they lost
> their grip on the animal and he fell into the river and drowned.
>
> The moral of the story? If you try to please everyone, you might as well
> kiss your ass good-bye.
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> Disclaimer: I really do like donkey's and this joke's sole purpose is for
> humour (with a small educational component). It is no reflection on the
> character of donkeys and is not intended to offend in anyway. Any
> similarities to characters either living or dead is purely coincidental.
>
> - Gerry Hawkes
> http://www.biketrack.com/pollution.htm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dean <mikedean.com@altavista.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> Date: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Genderisms
>
>
> >Dear Sean,
> >
> >In order that I do not tread on any toes when it comes to humour, would you
> please give us an actual example of a joke which not offend anybody at all.
> (If you achieve this, I'll send you £10)
> >
> >Wish you the best of luck.
> >
> >Mike.
> >
> >On Fri, 14 December 2001, "S.K. Harrison" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> > From: "Lee Flier" <lflier@mindspring.com>
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >> > You can't say anything
> >> > even in jest without somebody getting their
> >> > panties all in a wad. I'm a very sensitive
> >> > person, and I hate stereotypes more than almost
> >> > anything, but humor like this doesn't do
> >> > anything to "perpetuate" stereotypes. If
> >> > anything, poking fun at a stereotype can help
> >> > to break it down. How can people ever become
> >> > close if they can't laugh together, including
> >> > about sensitive issues?
> >>
> >> Please see my post to Gene in this thread, re
> >> tact and the diverse politics of our
> >> community-at-large. I address the issues you
> >> raise here.
> >>
> >> In summary, however, we can laugh together fine
> >> without having to resort to limited forms of
> >> humour that fail to acknowledge the wild
> >> diversity of permaculturists and people in
> >> general (men, women, the intersexed and
> >> bigendered, yuppies, hippies, techies, luddites,
> >> monogamists, polyamorists, gay, bi, straight,
> >> etc). Such acknowledgement does take more work
> >> and consideration, but I'll bet the results would
> >> prove worth the effort, both in learning about
> >> others, and in sharing a laugh with such
> >> different folks.
> >>
> >>
> >> > And even if I didn't think the posts were funny
> >> > I'd just hit the delete key and leave it at
> >> > that, rather than tell others what is
> >> > appropriate to think and say. Will the Thought
> >> > Police please give it a rest?
> >>
> >> Lay off the ad hominems. I expressed my opinion.
> >> I do not have the power to restrict anything on
> >> this list. You can post whatever you want, but I
> >> will speak out when I consider it necessary.
> >>
> >> Sean
> >>
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