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["Marsha Hanzi" <hanzibra@svn.com.br>]

In our courses the spouse ( or son/daughter, or partner, or employee) pays
half, and it has been  very positive.  As Permaculture brings on paradigm
changes,  it is important that the whole family makes the shift or at least
knows what is going on.    Besides that, each person remembers different
things, so the couple can put their heads together afterwards.  Until now it
has been a finanacial plus as well, making groups significantly larger than
they would have otherwise been.  Positive in all counts.

As to women's courses:  here at least, any event just for women is
well-attended.  I think we enjoy  being together from time to time.  I
suggest that men might also benefit from being together with just other men
from time to time, whether it be to do Permaculture or to do whatever...

Marsha

----- Original Message -----
From: rick valley <bamboogrove@cmug.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: couples (women's Pc courses)


> >I did think more couples would be interested in attending together
though...
> >shows how much out of touch I am.
> Usually economics decrees one half of the couple study while the other
pays
> or does childcare; following the lead of some folks in Oregon teaching
> wholistic sheep courses, I have pushed for significant couples discounts
> (spurred also by my losing a relationship to Pc (well, partly))
> Alas, it has never penciled out for the convenors. But I might well offer
it
> on my own (by accepting less than usual payment) in the future. I think
> couples need help these days & I think the PDC would 'take' better for
both
> if they attended together. I know I've seen many cases of one half of a
> couple taking advantage of a PDC or workshop to be single for awhile,
> although that's not quite what I'm talking about! (and not what sank my
> relationship, if you were wondering)
> But one thing I know I have wanted more everytime I break my personnal
> commitment- I am most comfortable facilitating PDC's in mixed-sex teams.
This
> has meant, for me, encouraging women to teach, and finding women to work
> with. I don't feel women are naturally inclined to Pc any more than men,
> (it's impossible w/o both?) but maybe a group of women is more so than a
> group of men?! Some friends I know & have worked with find it very
effective
> to, when they have the luxury of limiting enrollment in a workshop or PDC,
to
> purposely choose a slight majority of women. We feel it leads to a better
> workshop, and is the most effective way to influence the outcome, and much
> easier than trying to select appropriate individuals on criteria like
> personnal interests or whatever.
> -Rick
>
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