permaculture

[Lance Roseman <lanceroseman@yahoo.com>]

--- permaculture digest
<permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu> wrote:
> permaculture Digest for Wednesday, May 10, 2000.
> 
> 1. Re: permaculture digest: May 08, 2000
> 2. Re: permaculture digest: May 08, 2000
> 3. Re: Women's Introduction to Permaculture Weekend
> 6/9-11
> 4. Re: Women's Introduction to Permaculture Weekend
> 6/9-11
> 5. Re: Women's Introduction to Permaculture Weekend
> 6/9-11
> 
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> Subject: Re: permaculture digest: May 08, 2000
> From: "georg parlow" <georg@email-me.at>
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 10:31:13 +0200
> X-Message-Number: 1
> 
> >      If anyone knows about any group which is
> working
> > with Schauberger dynamics could you please inform
> me I
> > need someone to talk to about his work.
> 
> hi lance:
> contact michael kauderer
> mailto:office@mk-energies.com , tell him i (georg
> parlow) referred you to him, and ask him the same
> question. he is good
> friends with wolfgang wiedergut, an intl. authority
> on schauberger works,
> and is in contact with other people around the world
> who work in the field.
> that is my best guess.
> 
> btw, have you read "living energies" by callum
> coats? or another schauberger
> book?
Living Energies is actually the book I just read.  I
was given it by a friend because I kept having dreams
about free-energy devices and I don't know squat about
electricity.  That book blew me away, I started
reading it around 9 PM one night last week and my
partner Nico found me still up and engrossed at 9Am
the next morning.  I wonder if 'Our Useless Toil' has
been translated into English?  Thank you for the info
Georg.
Lance
> greetings
> (in lake switzerland to you too *s*)
> 
> georg
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: permaculture digest: May 08, 2000
> From: "georg parlow" <georg@email-me.at>
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 10:57:21 +0200
> X-Message-Number: 2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Victor Schauberger and it has thrown me for a
> loop.
> > Dark Suns and the smashing of the Second 'Law'(?)
> of
> > Thermodynamics.  Everything he wrote seems to be
> 
> thermodynamics - as an ouotstanding example of the
> carthesian view of the
> world - approach the world as a dead, mechanical
> machine - and thus it
> adresses only half of the world, the yin side of it,
> which is ruled by
> entropy. life is the other part of it, the yang
> side, ruled by enentropy,
> the organizing, lifebuilding,  constructive force of
> the universe -
> schauberger and moillison dealt mostly with this
> part of the picture.
> together they form the whole.
> 
> once we had a string going on the gernman speaking
> pc list regarding this
> subject, where someone regarded the traditional
> farmer, who fights the weeds
> and the regrowth of the forest as one who fights
> entropy. the opposite is
> true, the trad, farmer fights enentropy, the
> lifeforce, that tries to weave
> complex webs of life in stead of deserts - we as 
> farmers or gardeners sorta
> surf the life force - we throw the life process back
> (by plowinger, etc.)
> and then profit from the regenerative force that
> tries to heal our actions.
> over and over again.
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: Women's Introduction to Permaculture
> Weekend 6/9-11
> From: "Peter Wibberley" <petew@twpo.com.au>
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:24:49 +0930
> X-Message-Number: 3
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <hobbsj@efn.org>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 2:41 PM
> Subject: Women's Introduction to Permaculture
> Weekend 6/9-11
> 
> 
> > Please excuse any cross-posting.
> > An Introduction to
> > Permaculture:
> > A DesignWorkshop for
> > Women on Self-Reliant Living
> 
> Hi all
> I have seen a similar (or maybe the same one)
> workshop(s) advertised
> before... and it made me wonder
> How does a workshop for women differ from any other
> permaculture workshop ?
> Do women have different needs from pc design or is
> there perhaps more
> emphasis put on designing a pc system without the
> need for physical strength
> ??
> I am intrigued to know why there should be a need to
> segregate the sexes in
> a permaculture workshop... do women feel threatened
> by the presence of men
> at these workshops ?
> 
> snip
> 
> > The purpose of this workshop is to create a
> comfortable, supportive >
> environment for women to learn Permaculture
> philosophy, principles, and
> > strategies.
> 
> Do mixed sex workshops fail in this regard ?....
> and if they do .. what should be done to change the
> situation... is
> segregation the only answer ?
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: Women's Introduction to Permaculture
> Weekend 6/9-11
> From: "Jeff Hall" <JRHALL@gwgate.lib.iastate.edu>
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:23:27 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 4
> 
> Pete, think of it as increasing diversity and edge.
> Some feel more =
> comfortable learning in an equal social situation,
> and have been disempower=
> ed by the world-consuming white male culture.
> Support their healing, it =
> will make permaculture stronger.
> -Jeff Hall, Ames Iowa USA
> 
> >>> "Peter Wibberley" <petew@twpo.com.au> 05/10/00
> 05:54AM >>>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <hobbsj@efn.org>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 2:41 PM
> Subject: Women's Introduction to Permaculture
> Weekend 6/9-11
> 
> 
> > Please excuse any cross-posting.
> > An Introduction to
> > Permaculture:
> > A DesignWorkshop for
> > Women on Self-Reliant Living
> 
> Hi all
> I have seen a similar (or maybe the same one)
> workshop(s) advertised
> before... and it made me wonder
> How does a workshop for women differ from any other
> permaculture workshop =
> ?
> Do women have different needs from pc design or is
> there perhaps more
> emphasis put on designing a pc system without the
> need for physical =
> strength
> ??
> I am intrigued to know why there should be a need to
> segregate the sexes =
> in
> a permaculture workshop... do women feel threatened
> by the presence of men
> at these workshops ?
> 
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