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["Graham Burnett" <gburnett@unisonfree.net>]

Hi Myk et al,

Blimey, I started something with this Zones query didn't I??? It was only an 
idle drunken email
sent after 1 beer & one philosophical debate too many in the pub!!! Still 
it's certainly been
interesting so far, and a good exploration of the zones subject in general...

I'd like to see carl's mindmaps, esp for Zone 00- can you scan them and send 
accross?

I did a zone 00 mindmap of my own a little while back as well, but it would 
be good to see someone
elses!

I THINK what Carl was kind of getting at with Zone 6 was, if Zone 00 is our 
INTERNAL landscape,
psychology, the work we need to do with our own distress, etc, etc, then Zone 
6 is kind of the
COLLECTIVE subconsious, cultural mythologies, the dreaming, legends, folk 
tales, that kind of
thing, and which definition can't be too closely analysed... and in a way 
Zone 6 neatly loops back
onto Zone 00, where does the internal landscape begin and the collective 
subconscious end? Same
with all the zones really, there's always that blurring at the edges (which 
is probably where the
most interesting stuff happens, as with the edge principle in general....

And I havn't even had a drink today!!

Graham Burnett
35 Rayleigh Avenue
Westcliff On Sea
Essex, UK
SS0 7DS

South East Essex LETS
http://pages.unisonfree.net/gburnett/



----- Original Message -----
From: Myk Rushton <permaculture@wave.co.nz>
To: permaculture <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: 16 March 2000 08:06
Subject: Re: Zone 6 and zones in general


> Greetings
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> Looking back at a copy of Carl's original design notes (which he did as
> mindmaps) for zones he describes zones as follows:
>
> Zone 0 - home -most energy expenditure - work station - fuel consumption
> Zone 1 - daily visits or more - intensive use - workshop - herbs, cut and
> come, pond
> Zone 2 - weekly visits - maincrop veg - orchards - ponds
> Zone 3 - monthly visits - pasture - grazing - serious maincrops/grains
> Zone 4 - rare visits - managed woodland - nut - coppice - timber
> Zone 5 - wilderness - university of life
> (Zone 6 - untouched - never visited - zone 00 - people)
>
> The brackets are Carls, perhaps indicating that he realised that it did not
> quite fit in with the established paradigm for zones. Was it was something
> in development?
>
> Zone 00 is covered by a separate mindmap entitled Positive Thinking.
>
> I agree with you Toby that the addition of other zones beyond the 0-5 is
> confusing to people who are being explained the concept for the first time.
> Also as Loren says the original concept of zone/zoning etc has moved on from
> just being a design tool for the positioning of elements within a permanent
> agricultural system and is now also used by many as a metaphor for many
> other things within a permanent culture. Perhaps it also highlights the
> difference between the original rural application of Pc and the later urban
> application?
>
> Myk
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