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  • From: Keith Johnson <keithdj@mindspring.com>
  • To: Permaculture Mailing list <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Cc: Permaculture Mailing List <permaculture@envirolink.org>, "sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu" <sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu>
  • Subject: Copntrails update
  • Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:35:10 -0500


Mystery Contrails Said
Analyzed To Be Ehtlyene Dibromide

By Jhan Davis <jhan.davis@cwix.com>
2-1-99

Ethylene Dibromide Follow-Up

Dear Jeff -

Your website viewers may be interested in this EDB followup.

We shouldn't be too hasty to conclude that our government is
trying
to exterminate us with ethylene dibromide (EDB). Our government
has been known to make mistakes, big ones, without malice, and
this
is just one more of them. Occam's Razor points out a logical,
simpler
and less sinister explanation for the use of such a compound.

For many years, the cloud seeder of choice was Silver Iodide,
which
was both expensive and produced less than optimal results. I
believe
that the origins of the health problem we're seeing with ethylene

dibromide (as a seeder) can be resolved by a quick glance at the
Periodic Table of Elements.

Bromine sits directly above Iodine on the chart, which translates

into
very nearly identical chemical properties for the two elements.
In
its
haste to engineer the weather, our government scientists would be

driven by the periodic table to look for cheaper ways to create
rain
on demand, and that would instantly cause the scientists to
select
and
test a (preferably already existing) bromine compound. Plus, the
scientists would conclude prior to testing that the chemically
lighter
bromine compound just might diffuse better, form a condensate
nucleus better and ultimately cause more precipitation than the
old
silver iodide. Mark this up to more government failure to test
the
product for its intended use before overpurchasing. Are we seeing

more precipitation as a result of these tests? (OOPS!) And it
would
make sense to a government which overpurchased to dump the stuff
in the sky where again the scientists would have told you that it

would diffuse so as to be ineffective at ground level. They
didn't
take
into account the tendency of the stuff to form glops and clobber
pedestrians after being combined with JP-8 exhaust products which

leave the final compressor stage at elevated temperatures. You
can
usually follow the money trail to the source of a government
snafu.
Now for the clincher.

Some of your readers are claiming relief from their ethylene
dibromide poisoning by ingesting silver compounds. Remember
Silver Iodide? Well, it makes as much sense to bind your
(unintentionally) extra bromine to silver as it did to bind
iodine
to
silver for the original cloud seeder. Silver bromide is the
result, and
your system will eliminate it just as it will any other
unnecessary
chemical compound. But, your system will have a difficult time
with
any extra silver you ingest over and above the amount needed to
bind the bromine in your system. Please let your readers know
that
overdoses of heavy metals can cause them as many problems as the
bromine compound that got them into respiratory distress in the
first
place. Only ingest heavy metal compounds as prescribed by a
licensed physician and after ethylene dibromide poisoning has
been
confirmed--which is not an "at the Doctor's office test" as
explained
by the fact sheet below ! However, your patients may wish to
steer
their Doctor towards a test for excessive bromine after exposure
to
the falling goop (as opposed to just assuming they've got the
flu)
because this stuff is so difficult to detect once it gets into
your
system.

You may also wish to advise your readers to inform their elected
representatives that the bromine compounds belong in certain
over-the-counter medications--not as an aerosol to be
administered
in
a medically uncontrolled environment such as walking down the
street.

The ethylene dibromide page will further interest your readers:
http://atsdr1.atsdr.cdc.gov:8080/tfacts37.html

- Jhan Davis
----

The lab director of Aqua-tech Environmental using samples taken
from JP-8 contaminated fields of Maryland and Pennsylvania,
reported today (9/18/97) that ethylene dibromide, otherwise known

as EDB, has been the contaminate in the fuel and water samples
submitted by farmers, pilots and tanker drivers. EDB is one of
the
most tightly controlled EPA substances and was banned in 1983 due

to its carcinogenieity. EDB is a pesticide that apparently is
being
placed in the jet fuel and dispersed on a daily, almost non-stop
basis
in our skies. The lines filling our skies are not contrails. The
lines are
dispersed and may linger for hours, slowly filtering down to
unsuspecting pests, and I guess we're the PESTS.

Water samples are contaminated with EDB and crops are dying.
EDB is just one more avenue for the N-O folks to starve us to
death
and make us ill by weakening our already compromised immune
systems. Exposure to this toxic chemical may lead to ca--er,
liver
and
kidney damage, pulmonary edema, damage to a developing fetus and
reproductive organs of both men and women. Let's not forget that
the chemical may also cause sterility. Doesn't that fit into
their
plan
for population control? They have really found the perfect
chemical.

EDB is a carcinogen and a mutagen that may also cause eye and
skin
irritation, cardiopulmonary arrest, and binds to DNA. Skin
blisters
and respiratory failure are other conditions caused by ethylene
dibromide. The conditions are too numerous to list but this will
give
you an idea of problems caused by this chemical. EDB is a
carcinogen at any exposure level and humans are more susceptible
than animals to the acute toxic affects. This does not mean that
it will
not kill animals. We have reports from California and Wyoming of
the birds dying.

Ethylene dibromide was used in leaded gasoline until 1983 to
remove
lead from engines and was found in engine exhaust. This chemical
is
a heavy liquid with a chloroform-like odor that becomes a gas at
temperatures greater than 40 degrees F. The higher the
temperature
it is dispersed at the more toxic It becomes, therefore
dispersing
from
a jet would be ideal, The compound is stable, meaning it does not

easily decompose. This would account for the substance staying in

the sky for long periods of time. EDB is only slightly soluble in

water, but dissolves easily in organic solvents. JP-8 Is
considered an
organic solvent. A water sample from rain would be an excellent
way
to verify contamination and a fuel sample so much the better.

Please note that EDB is a colorless liquid, with a sweet odor,
however no smell does not mean you are not being exposed.
Substances are also added that counteract the smell. Pilots
please
note that dispersing JP-8, along with these toxic chemicals is
killing
people. You are not counteracting any type of biological that has

been spread, or any antidote of anytype.

We now have proof that our gove--ent is using chemical agents on
populated areas they are adding it to military jet fuel. Have you

ever
looked up at a vapor trail behind military aircraft flying so
high
a
symbol of Ame-ica's power. Look again!! Commerical jets also
leave
a lovely (non-toxic) vapor trail when the heat from the turbines
come
in contact with the cool air, condensing the water droplets into
steam.
Softly the lines diffuse into the blue sky. So what is different
about
the military aircraft? The answer is simple. It's the Fuel
JP-8+100 is
some really bad stuff.

When you look up over the skys of New York City on a clear, sunny

morning you see the military aircraft making patterens across the

sky
with their vapor trails. The smoke is thick and does not go away.

When it comes in contact with the sunlight it turns to a purple
color,
then dissipates into an overcast Purple Haze.

So what is this Purple Haze? A fuel sample of JP-8+100 was taken
to an independent lab (NON GOV-RMENT FUNDED) and broken
down.

The sample revealed two toxic substances.
1. Ethlyene Di Bromide
2. Zinc Chloride
1. EDB attacks the Liver, Lungs , and Skin, causing liver damage,

Lung
and skin C--cer. Also, EDB lowers the immune system by depleting
the
body of B vitamins and zinc. Answer to the problem--use a B
Complex
vitamin and Zinc.
2. We don't know the effects of Zinc Chloride yet.




  • Copntrails update, Keith Johnson, 02/22/1999

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