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  • From: "Bareis, Santa Cruz" <ibabambu@cruzio.com>
  • To: <permaculture@listserv.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: Urban Permaculture (In Japan)
  • Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:40:52 -0800

Dear Ken & Lisa;
I know your situation quite well as I spent seven years in Japan and
eventually got three chobu of unused rice land to
garden (with a passion), from local Nohkyo in Yase villlage, Kyoto... Well I
could mention that if you are interested
in meeting others with like minds there are several groups in scaattered
regions around JAPAN where are you exactly
located and are you relatively fluent in Japanese?
Karl F. Bareis- international coordinator
International Bamboo Association (IBA)
Santa Cruz, California, USA
<ibabambu@cruzio.com>

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From: logank@mail.wind.co.jp
To: permaculture@listserv.unc.edu; permaculture@envirolink.org
Subject: Urban Permaculture (In Japan)
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 12:24 AM

Hello,

This is our first post to this list, though we've been lurking for a while,
so first a little background on our
situation: We are Ken and Lisa Logan, and we are expatriates living in
Japan. We've been here for a few years, and
dicovered permaculture about a year ago. As a recent post said, our chances
for learning permaculture in Japan are
almost nil, though I was happy to hear that Bill Mollison will be coming here
soon. I doubt we can make it to Tokyo to
see him, however. :(

Nevertheless, we'd like to grow some of our own food, using and learning as
many permaculture techniques as we can.
We've read several intro books, and I am devouring the Designer's Manual at
the moment. One problem I can't find many
answers to in the books is that of urban situations. I can find references
to it, but not a lot of concrete
informations or examples.

You see, we rent a little 'house' on a piece of land almost the exact size of
the house, so we have nowhere to make a
garden. We do have a nice south-facing patio area, and were thinking of
growing some plants in buckets, planters,
tires, or whatever we can find. We'll be leaving Japan in a year or two
(three??), so we don't want to invest in a lot
of equipment, long-term plants, etc. We were hoping that we could tap the
imagination and experience of the people on
this list to help us.

Does anyone have any experience with this sort of situation?

We'd especially like to know about guilds, combinations of plants, and/or
suggested plants in general for our
situation. We're thinking of a bunch of herbs (herb spiral??), squash and/or
melons, bell peppers, some beans,
tomatoes, etc. -- we'd like to have some success at this, so the easier to
grow, the better. :)

We'd really like to try some of the plants we see a lot in the permaculture
books like Jerusalem Artichokes but we
don't know where to get these more exotic (for Japan anyway) seeds, or even
if they'll do alright here (if they aren't
local varieties). Any ideas?

The patio itself is fairly narrow but long east to west. It's a little over 1
meter wide and 4 to 5 meters long (4' x
15' or so), with a translucent white-ish corrugated plastic 'roof' over it.
We have a little space (about a meter
square -- could get a little more here & there) that isn't covered, on the
east side of the patio. We are going to
need some kind of windbreak on the west side -- that is where the strong
winds come from, and there is a 'konnyaku' (a
Japanese root vegetable) field there that gets sprayed several times a year
with pesticide. We *really* don't want
that stuff on our plants! If anyone wants, we can take a picture and e-mail
it to them.

I apologize for this being a little long. We welcome any and all comments
and suggestions. Thanks a lot.

Sincerely,

Ken & Lisa Logan


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The philosopher Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper.
He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by
flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, "If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would
not have to live on lentils."

Said Diogenes, "Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be
subservient to the king."

‹-The Song of the Bird by Anthony de Mello





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