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  • From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflondon@mindspring.com>
  • To: permaculture
  • Subject: Re: creating online plant database
  • Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 10:46:40 -0500


On Wed, 07 Nov 2001 08:39:33 -0600, mIEKAL aND <dtv@mwt.net> wrote:

>
>the more I think about this database project the more it occurs to me that
>it might
>be far more comprehensive, useful, interesting if we could figure out how
>to create
>a database that the whole permaculture list could access & enter data at
>their
>leisure. it's probably above my own skills to figure out login,
>authorization & to
>design a system where one person's entries wouldnt be written over by
>another.
>undoubtedly, someone else has those skills. on the other hand it would be
>very easy

I can do that part here at ibiblio: password protected login
(htaccess) to the database. A files/documents/pix uploads area can be
created (I have this php script already and have been using it for
years) for acquisition of raw data that can be added to the database.
I'm in learning mode with php and mysql so won't be of much use
creating the database for a while yet. (Where did you get the
documentation necessary to learn php/mysql ?) Maybe you and John could
collaborate to create the database and scripting which could be hosted
here at ibiblio - you and he could have accounts on the system to get
the work done.
I could add this resource as part of ecolandtech or a new one could be
created for the project with access for those working on it.

>to generate a tremendous amount of data that is sometimes very difficult to
>find. I
>realize in a way that this is shooting for the stars, but if many are
>interested in
>the same data, then it would mean that we all wouldnt have to duplicate data.
>
>or maybe there is someway to mirror the pfaf.org database & design something
>that
>would be interchangeable, where the info could be ported from one to the
>other.
>
>
>mIEKAL
>
>
>manuring & mulching trees in shorts & tshirt in November in wisconsin.
>seems global
>warming does have a few benefits..
>
>
>
>John Schinnerer wrote:
>
>> Aloha,
>>
>> > these are good suggestions but I wonder if they are necessary for the
>> > particular
>> > application, which will be just a section of our website where
>> > visitors can look to
>> > see what we are growing. I think it will be a lot of general users
>> > as opposed to
>> > visitors who are looking for specific design information. & in
>> > particular to use it
>> > as a way for interns here to get a good handle on what we have going
>> > in our different
>> > planting projects.
>>
>> I see what you mean...my suggestions were in fact geared towards
>> providing specific design info, because much of same seems to be
>> scattered and/or hard to find when I really need it. Go with what you
>> need...I look forward to seeing it.
>>
>> > mySQL & php 4
>>
>> Three cheers for open source!
>> If you haven't already, check out Zope (zope.org), also open source.
>> Blows everything else clean away for web dev/pub platform ('cause it's
>> true object-oriented). I was about to start re-doing my site with
>> PHP/MySQL and then I found Zope - I'm still on the steep part of the
>> learning curve, but well worth it.
>>
>> cheers,
>> John S.
>>
>> =====
>> John Schinnerer, MA
>> --------------------
>> - Eco-Living -
>> Cultural & Ecological Designing
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>> http://eco-living.net
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