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  • Subject: Re: [percy-l] Confessions of a Catholic Novelist
  • Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:41:25 -0700

On 6/22/2015 11:37 AM, Lauren Stacy Berdy wrote:
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The reader as much as the writer creates the vision in their own mind
If the process of creation does not happen in the readers mind is not reenacted
If the subterranean links and connections  do not link
The work fails
For this reader Born a Jew Dr Percy wants us alert like one of his hawks
His words give us a renewal and a resuscitation for our own lives
Whitman too was religious ( okay a religion not made by a mind) he helped us with our emotional evolution
Dr Percy adds to that self generating order
That creative struggle that all great authors ask of Their readers

I read that article twice and I am sorry that he is wresting so with his demons
catholic or otherwise. 
 






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On Jun 22, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Michael Larson <larsonovic AT gmail.com> wrote:

I so hope the world will take him at his word when Mr. Giraldi denies being a Catholic. Otherwise, people might mistake his interests and concerns for those of a real Catholic novelist. As a secular novelist, Mr. Giraldi seems most interested in how his life has prepared him to be an artiste, his boyhood Catholicism being one of those preparations: "An upbringing in the Church has, I suspect and hope, outfitted me well as a storyteller." He likes the instincts Catholicism gave him--but for the purpose of storytelling and not for the purpose of apprehending and conforming oneself to the truth. He even likes there to be a quasi-religious vision to fiction, as long as it is sufficiently amorphous: "A novel should indeed be a groping after some form of the metaphysical, a benediction to unseen powers, the upholding of the mysterium tremendum, those insistent inklings of the numinous."

But the Catholic novelist is most interested in objective reality, and he sees his role as artist to be one of rendering that reality as well as he can. Obviously some novels (and novelists) are better than others, but the vision of the Catholic novelist is neither narcissistic nor subjective (Nor is it proselytizing, as Giraldi claims with regard to Percy and Greene in particular.). No, the Catholic novelist's vision is of something outside of himself, corresponding to divine revelation. His characters may be at any level of understanding (or rejecting) that reality, but the (Catholic) novelist himself has no such freedom. He knows what he knows, and the world he creates, in which his characters live and breathe, must bear a close resemblance to the real one. But this includes immaterial as well as material reality. Mr. Giraldi is fine with being exact about material reality ("my books are flesh-obsessed"), but he wants to keep the immaterial vague, subjective, fuzzy. That's why he's not a Catholic ... and why he should therefore remain silent about the concerns of Catholic writers.

Michael Larson




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   3. Confessions of A Catholic Novelist: When water, bread, and
      blood aren't just water, bread and blood - William Giraldi
      (Henry Mills)


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Someone at the Korrektiv blog has created an enhanced version of the
Flannery O'Connor stamp:

http://korrektivpress.com/2015/06/lets-try-that-again/

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Jim Forest <jhforest AT gmail.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/05/opinion/a-good-stamp-is-hard-to-find.html?mabReward=CTM&moduleDetail=recommendations-2&action="click&contentCollection=N.Y.%20%2F%20Region&region=Footer&module=WhatsNext&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&configSection=article&isLoggedIn=true&src=recg&pgtype=article
> A Good Stamp Is Hard to Find
>
> By LAWRENCE DOWNES / NY TIMES / JUNE 4, 2015
>  Photo
>   Credit United States Postal Service
>
> English majors, say hooray: Flannery O?Connor is on a postage stamp. It
> comes out Friday and costs 93 cents.
>
> It?s a pretty picture. She wears a simple top with a jewel neckline, and
> pearls. Her pink porcelain face, framed in a 1940s bob, glows with the
> barest hint of a how-do-you-do smile.
>
> Wait ? what?s Betty Crocker doing on Flannery?s stamp?
>
> This stamp does not, to my eyes, show Flannery O?Connor, the 20th-century
> master of the short story, the ?hermit novelist? who fused her art and life
> as a Southerner and a Roman Catholic with stories that are shocking,
> hilarious and often bloody. The one who lived with her mother in
> Milledgeville, Ga., and raised peafowl. Who got sick and died young, of
> lupus, in 1964. Who gazed at the sin-stricken world through cat-eye glasses
> that are as much her visual signature as Hemingway?s beard or Frida?s
> eyebrow.
>
> This stamp shows the artist as a very young woman, barely 20 years old.
> It?s based on a photo of her as an undergraduate at Georgia State College
> for Women. Her oeuvre then amounted to cartoons and stories for the college
> magazine. Everything else in her dazzling career ? the Iowa Writers?
> Workshop, the artists? retreat Yaddo, ?Wise Blood,? ?A Good Man Is Hard to
> Find? ? lay ahead.
> Photo
>   Flannery O'Connor beneath her self portrait in June 1962. Credit Joe
> McTyre/Atlanta Journal-Constitution
>
> The image has rattled some O?Connor admirers. (Facebook
> <
https://www.facebook.com/Andalusiafarmpage>: ?This is all wrong. They
> glamour-shot her. She looks like she has a bad case of pink eye.? )
>
> The United States Postal Service gave this job to an art director, who
> hired a freelance artist. I spoke with both of them, and learned that
> neither knew much about O?Connor, but they did their best with the images
> they had. The artist told me he had read one of her novels in college. He
> knew O?Connor had raised peacocks, so he framed her with feathers. The art
> director remembered that her work was ?unsettling,? and that she was a
> Catholic.
>
> I can?t blame either of them for deciding on this striking portrait as the
> best fit for their tiny canvas, but I wish they and the Postal Service had
> produced a stamp that was more recognizably the grown-up Flannery, and
> contained some taste of her strange and majestic artistic vision.
>
> I know she does not present an automatic illustrative equation, like
> mustache + steamboat = Mark Twain. But a better choice was staring the
> Postal Service in the face: a painting made by the author herself, a
> self-portrait from 1953. She is wearing a yellow straw hat, holding a
> devilish-looking pheasant and looking straight at you, baleful and
> brilliant, as if she could smell your stupidity. It is gorgeous and jagged
> and honest and perfect.
>
> ?The self-portrait was made ten years ago,? O?Connor wrote to a friend,
> ?after a very acute siege of lupus. I was taking cortisone, which gives you
> what they call a moon-face, and my hair had fallen out to a large extent
> from the high fever, so I looked pretty much like the portrait. When I
> painted it I didn?t look either at myself in the mirror or at the bird. I
> knew what we both looked like.?
>
> A version of this editorial appears in print on June 5, 2015, on page A26
> of the New York edition with the headline: A Good Stamp Is Hard to Find.
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:35:28 -0400
From: Henry Mills <wppdirector AT gmail.com>
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Subject: [percy-l] Confessions of A Catholic Novelist: When water,
        bread, and blood aren't just water, bread and blood - William Giraldi
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Dear Percy-L:

For those wishing to read an interesting, if not provocative essay
byWilliam Giraldi -- novelist and contributing editor for /The New
Republic -- /on his views of Catholicism and novel-writing from
hiscontemporary perspective, you may wish to consider his below essay
just published online.

Entitled "Confessions of A Catholic Novelist: When water, bread, and
blood aren't just water, bread and blood," Percy, O'Connor, and Graham
Greene are each considered and represented in their perspectives with
numerous quotes and discussion by Giraldi.

In addition, given the recent postal stamp "controversy" with O'Connor,
the essay features a fascinating photograph of her standing with one of
her peacocks, a photo worth enjoying.

SPOILER ALERT: Giraldi's essay is both affirming and non-affirming of
its treated subjects.  Perhaps some list members would like to respond
for the benefit of the Percy-L community?

See: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122078/confessions-catholic-novelist

Best,

Henry Mills
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In his reading of The Moviegoer, Mr. Giraldi completely ignores one of its most important thematic threads, i.e. Binx's intuition of his "Jewishness" as a "clue" to his deepest identity, and where that clue leads him in the novel.  Giraldi's simplified interpretation is a serious misreading of the novel (for his own purposes, I suppose).

John Desmond



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