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- From: "Tommy Armstrong" <tfa AT brickengraver.com>
- To: "'Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion'" <percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism.
- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:41:50 -0400
I am not by any stretch of the imagination a “deep old
file” as Patrick O’Brian –my equally favourite novelist
with WP-described Stephen Maturin in his Aubrey Maturin Series. POB was also a Roman
Catholic and Stephen was one also . I am not sure why my two favourite authors are
RC when I am a pretty confirmed Protestant. Anyway a comparison between the two
would make for a good dissertation or two for an academic type. What I would like to discuss is the theory of a very learned
professor I had when I went back to school to finally get my degree, a one
David Greene. I am wondering if in this learned group anyone else has seen this
theory published or thought about it. I took a strange course called Beethoven
and Revolution in which we studied among other things, Renaissance painting and
sculpture and the subsequent Enlightenment, Beethoven symphonies and quartets
and Napoleons’ influences on their structure, Chinese philosophy and Chinese
scroll painting, Matisse, and Sartre, and a smattering of Aristotle and
Thomas Aquinas, if I remember correctly. The theme that brought them all together was perspective. Specifically
the discovery or invention of single point perspective by Filippo Brunelleschi
in the year 1415. It was with this discovery of linear perspective that science
and essentially “Western” thought as we know it began. For when on
sees in perspective, one can visualize “complex” systems that can
be measured, it made possible Newton’s calculus and Decartes coordinate
system and his vision of the world. It changed imagery as we knew it forever.
And within 200 years was so engrained into the Western mind that it was
considered to be the “normal and natural way” of seeing the world.
Egyptian, Chinese and African art was now considered to be “primitive”.
Plotting the orbits of the planets was now possible with this new way of
seeing. The novel itself was born, being a linear invention as was the
symphony, with a beginning, middle and end. We in the Western world became “linear”.
Cause and effect is a linear or what I think of as a dyadic concept. The problem is that human beings do not see in this manner. It
is artificial for us-an invention. We do not see as the camera sees, but
rather from ever changing points of view and we do this unconsciously. Think
about the simple act of walking into a room—and see how many times one
changes not only the angle of view but the focus. Think about the difference of
scanning a picture of a room and actually scanning the room. It is pretty evident
that we do not see as the camera does. But not only is our seeing but our
thinking is not linear—except when with exertion we try and force it to
be. When man begins, according to this theory, to treat himself from
this linear point of view which we think endemic in our thought processes-but
is really not, one loses what Dr. Green referred to as “My Ownness”—The
so called Cartesian Dualism is only made possible and can only be explained
through linear thinking. Much like what I think of Percy railing against the
giving away of ones self to the “experts”. When one essentially
delegates his life to the so called experts, one loses “My Ownness”.
A particular state brought on by using an artificial perspective and particular
perhaps to a Post Renaissance Western culture. That is of course until
Post Reanissance Western Culture became the de facto world culture. Matisse for example understood this and came up with a “new”
but really an old way of looking at the world—a world where ones view was
not constrained from a single point but from a multiplicity of view points all
at once and in no linear progression. Matisse saw the constraining nature that
art had taken on and wanted to create a new are more in tune with human
perceptions and therefore one that did not delete the My Ownness of the viewer.
Stream of consciousness writing was a reaction to this constraining
system. Picasso tried to depict the world from multiple points of view on a
single two dimensional canvas. Sartre and existentialism is a reaction to the
Cartesian world view. When we got to China and Chinese Scroll painting we found an art
that was multipoint perspective—for the viewpoint of the viewer was
constantly moving as the scroll was unrolled. One did not lose his “myowness”
in the viewing because he was not being directed by the mathematical Cartesian
constraining laws. In many ways a much more humanly way of depicting the
world. But a viewpoint that did not give rise to calculus, high technology,
etc. But did give us Lao Tzu. Perhaps what I am trying to get at is that perhaps our
perspective is clouding reality. We are so engrained with this perspective of
things that we believe it to be correct. But it has only existed in human
consciousness and culture for a fraction of our existence on the earth. It
brings a certain kind of reality into focus, but only a single type-and to try
to interpret human beings with this perspective is patently flawed—even in
trying to interpret pre-perspective art and writing one must be cognizant of
this viewpoint. Kind of like the Uncertainty principle—where the presence
of the viewer makes it impossible to actually view the subject being studied. Film-an invention of the past century-in many ways is
multipoint and perhaps is the reason for it being the popular art form of today—Why
was Binx such a moviegoer? This is of course a bit of a disjointed and perhaps flawed view,
but I throw it out for discussion. Tommy Armstrong PO Box 484 Lillington, NC 27546 www.brickengraver.com “If you are a big enough fool to climb a tree and like a
cat refuse to come down, then someone who loves you has to make as big a fool
of himself to rescue you” Walker Percy From:
percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On
Behalf Of Nikkibar AT aol.com Dear Rhonda, At the time of our conversations about animal communication we
were not focused on CSP and his triadic/dyadic distinctions. Just words. Nor
did we ever discuss animals' abilities to understand words (you should see what
my Yorkie does at the mention of steak!) as opposed to their
abilities to communicate back ( surely his response is of a positive nature at
that mention of steak). My impression is that WP would be negative on both issues -- or
would have been then. It would be interesting to hear his response to Temple
Grandin's Animals in Translation and Thinking in Pictures, neither of which had
been published in his lifetime. For that matter, it would be interesting to
hear his reflection on CSP's views and the problems of deep autism generally... Nikki
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Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism.,
Nikkibar, 03/26/2008
- Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism., RHONDA MCDONNELL, 03/27/2008
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Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism.,
Tommy Armstrong, 03/27/2008
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Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism.,
DMT Philosophy, 03/28/2008
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Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism.,
Tommy Armstrong, 03/28/2008
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Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism.,
DMT Philosophy, 03/28/2008
- Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism., Tommy Armstrong, 03/28/2008
- Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism., Tommy Armstrong, 03/28/2008
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Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism.,
DMT Philosophy, 03/28/2008
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Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism.,
Tommy Armstrong, 03/28/2008
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Re: [percy-l] Chimps, Yorkies, words and autism.,
DMT Philosophy, 03/28/2008
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