Percy-L: Literary, Religious, Scientific, and Philosophical Discussion of Walker Percy

[<Robert_Pauley AT oxy.com>]

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Steve:

 

Thanks so much. 

 

RP 

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From: percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Parlin, Steven
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 7:24 PM
To: 'Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion'
Subject: RE: [percy-l] gay marriage

Alexander Pope was an insightful man... I think this is apropos to parts of our discussion.

Vice is a monster of so frightful mien, As to be hated needs but to be seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then pity, then embrace.

Robert, while this is not a "screeds" free citation (I'm not quite sure if that is even possible) it is among the most clearly stated intellectual positions regarding this matter of homosexuality (which in the end really isn't an issue of its own, but is the banner for a much larger cultural shift regarding family, marriage, and sexuality), that I have read.  

In fact, for anyone really interested in understanding the Church's concerns, I think this is probably one of the finer "lay" documents available.

http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9403/articles/homo.html

Steve

 

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From: Robert_Pauley AT oxy.com [mailto:Robert_Pauley AT oxy.com]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:46 PM
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Subject: RE: [percy-l] gay marriage

Can anyone refer me to a well-reasoned and well-referenced intellectual/moral argument in opposition to gay marriage and, perhaps, to homosexuality in general. No screeds or strictly religious arguments, please. Many thanks. RP

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From: percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of RHONDA MCDONNELL
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 6:38 PM
To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion
Subject: Re: [percy-l] gay marriage

Hi Karey:

 

You might be interested in Harold Bloom's contention that the Hebrew pronouns which refer to God in the original Old Testament are genderless.  Since I don't read Hebrew, I can't check this, but I do know that Milton also agrees with you.  Not bad company to be in.  And we may as well throw in Plato's SYMPOSIUM as another argument that precedes yours.

 

Rhonda

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From: Karey L. Perkins

To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion

Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: [percy-l] gay marriage

 

 

I think our spirits/souls ultimately transcend gender -- God has no genitals (although we traditionally and misleadingly refer to "Him" as a "He," gender is by definition a physical trait and God is not physical - only Jesus). 

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