Percy-L: Literary, Religious, Scientific, and Philosophical Discussion of Walker Percy

[Mike Frentz <mfrentz AT bbn.com>]

Karey, 

re your first question -- this paper was "discovered" yesterday
and floated on the peirce-l list (though the paper is four years old, I
wasn't aware of it either and I'm a big fan of Deacon).  Interesting
coupling of the "reproductive properties" of memes in terms of
semiosis (interpretant spawning yet another sign).  

Terrence W. Deacon, Memes as Signs
 http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/epc/srb/srb/10-3edit.html

Unfortunately the two other books he comments on as upcoming in
"Note 10" still aren't to be found.  Floyd Merrel's 1997
book on Peirce, Signs, and Meaning is also quite an interesting read in
this area.

re the second question -- I personally think this whole notion is
irrelevant, as long as the triangle is interpreted by the area rather
than the edges, all vertices are connected to the other two, a dyadic
relationships aren't necessarily implied to me by this.  I find it
interesting that Peirce doesn't really seem to have used either notation
in his various descriptions of the same concepts (at least not in the
Collected Papers), yet he his existential graphs are nothing less than a
graphical computer.  BTW, a *great* reference for anyone attempting
to surf the CP on their own is
Charles
S. Peirce's Philosophy of Signs: Essays in Comparative Semiotics
(Advances in Semiotics) 
by Gerard Deledalle, 2001 (Deledalle,
a French philosopher who did much to bring CSP to Europe's attention,
just died a few months back).  Like having a Fodor's to the CSP
wilderness (I think WP would have loved to have had this book)

I find it striking how different research is today because of the
web vs. when Percy was working this a little over a decade ago (per
Ketner's Thief of Peirce dialogues).  Also, a lot of work has been
done in this area since his death.

re the third question:  I dunno?  I'd be interested if you do
find the reference.  I have on occasion started to look up Langer's
work but came away with the impression that she had drifted so far off in
less Pe*rc*an directions that aren't of particular interest to me that
I've never followed through on what it was that Percy was fond of in
Langer's work wrt CSP's legacy.


Best,
Mike


At 03:24 PM 8/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> No -- I'm certainly no
> moderator!  But I am fascinated by the fact that gays and Biblical
> authority have garnered so much response, but Percy's language theory
> doesn't get much interest?  There's so much he left unfinished and
> so much to investigate.  If he had lived longer, I think something
> tremendous might have come out of it -- like, the answer to, what is the
> interpretant?  He died before he could solve it.
>  
> So, here's what I would discuss if I had the choice...
>  
> What is the interpretant?
>  
> Why did he use triangles instead of triads, even when a good argument was
> given against it?
>  
> What did Susanne Langer drop that he picked up?  (I believe he says
> what it is in one place, but I lost it somewhere)
>  
> KP
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Parlin, Steven 
> To: 'Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion' 
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [percy-l] West Wing 
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> Hmmm...
>
> Because some of my replies that contradict Karey are not showing up in my
> inbox, I assumed (wrongly it seems) that I had angered her (isn't she the
> moderator?), and that she was preventing my postings from going to the list.
>
>
> I owe you an all an apology...but especially Karey. 
>
> Please forgive my presumption.
>
> I'm an ass.  
>
> Steve 
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:45 PM
> To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion
> Subject: Re: [percy-l] West Wing 
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>
> Steve,
> Why are we getting triplicates of your posting??
> -DB
>
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Parlin, Steven wrote:
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