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- From: "Parlin, Steven" <PARLINS AT culver.org>
- To: "'Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion'" <percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: RE: [percy-l] gay marriage
- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:16:17 -0500
Jim, I think you misunderstand my
point. No matter what one chooses to call a committed homosexual relationship,
it's NOT the same kind of nuptial bond that the word "marriage" refers to,
not from a historical, traditional, cultural, biological, religious or any
other frame of reference. It's not. Yes, words change over time, and as
Mike pointed out, the phonetics and semantics can shift dramatically... but
reality doesn't change. In this case, the reality is that these are two
very different kinds of relationships and as such cannot be referred to with the
same word. No more so than calling the moon, the sun, or night, day.
Using the word 'marriage' to refer to these
different bonds in the same way is an out and out attempt to manipulate (dare I
say, engineer) public tolerance through semantic abuse. Orwell's Freedom is
slavery; War is Peace kind of manipulation. (BTW. If the state does eventually
recognize "homosexual marriages", what are we to make of two brothers,
two sisters or two friends living together? Why not give such co-habitators
the same kinds of benefits, which is what this is fundamentally about,
after all).
Now...I must comment on your "supreme
arbiter of politically correct semantics". Be careful, here. I wonder
just WHO it is that are you referring to? Isn't the supremre arbiter in this
case those who are INSISTING that we call homosexual relationships marriage,
even to the point of making it into law? Who is policing whom? Check out
what's going on in Ireland right now. Anyone who speaks out against
homosexual marriage is in jeopardy of going to jail for "hate rhetoric". (And,
moreover, its worth noting that the Catholic Church has long been out of any
kind of position to "police" anyone).
The point is not that our understanding of
reality is changing (although i think this is, if anything, a very clear
indicator of having less of an understanding of reality), but that words cannot
be made to mean whatever we want them to mean. Words can and do change, but this
is a not merely change but misuse. Perhaps, because of the times we are
living, the sacrament of matrimony will have to move on to new semantic
territory, will have to find a new word for itself. Silly, as Mike mentioned,
took quite a fall after all.
Finally, I could be wrong for I didn't know him personally, but based on his work, homosexuality was clearly not "natural" in Percy's view, and he would have referred to this absurdity as yet one more indicator that we are "Lost in the Cosmos". Steve
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Re: [percy-l] gay marriage
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Re: [percy-l] gay marriage,
Phil Hammond, 08/12/2003
- Re: [percy-l] gay marriage, James Piat, 08/12/2003
- More semantics (was Re: [percy-l] gay marriage), Mike Frentz, 08/13/2003
- RE: [percy-l] gay marriage, Mike Frentz, 08/12/2003
- RE: [percy-l] gay marriage, Parlin, Steven, 08/12/2003
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Re: [percy-l] gay marriage,
Joseph Cimino, 08/12/2003
- Re: [percy-l] gay marriage, Mike Frentz, 08/12/2003
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Re: [percy-l] gay marriage,
LTberrywtr, 08/12/2003
- Re: [percy-l] gay marriage, James Piat, 08/12/2003
- RE: [percy-l] gay marriage, Parlin, Steven, 08/12/2003
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RE: [percy-l] gay marriage,
Parlin, Steven, 08/12/2003
- Re: [percy-l] gay marriage, James Piat, 08/12/2003
- RE: [percy-l] gay marriage, Robert_Pauley, 08/12/2003
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Re: [percy-l] gay marriage,
LTberrywtr, 08/12/2003
- Re: [percy-l] gay marriage, James Piat, 08/13/2003
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RE: [percy-l] gay marriage,
Parlin, Steven, 08/13/2003
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Re: [percy-l] gay marriage,
Karey L. Perkins, 08/13/2003
- Re: [percy-l] gay marriage, RHONDA MCDONNELL, 08/18/2003
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Re: [percy-l] gay marriage,
Karey L. Perkins, 08/13/2003
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Re: [percy-l] gay marriage,
Nikkibar, 08/13/2003
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Re: [percy-l] gay marriage,
Tim Cole, 08/13/2003
- Re: [percy-l] gay marriage, James Piat, 08/13/2003
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Re: [percy-l] gay marriage,
Tim Cole, 08/13/2003
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Re: [percy-l] gay marriage,
Phil Hammond, 08/12/2003
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