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[Stephanie Gerson <sgerson@stanfordalumni.org>]

Unfortunately, I don't have the names of the articles at the moment (writing
from work) - but I will see if I can find them in some other format.

As for IE being oxymoronic (whoa, that sounded worse than I intended it to!) -
it's more about mimicking *processes*.  A la "eco-industrial parks," for
instance, where the waste of one process/industry serves as a resource for
another (integrated farming system mimicked in a networked industrial system).
 There are wonderful case studies on this -I'll poke around.  Before getting
too judgemental, I'd learn about it.  Sure, I'll try to find some good intro
resources on IE - shorter and slimmer and in some other format than the PDF's
I sent out ;)

peace
*Stephanie

------ Original Message ------
Received: 12:23 AM PDT, 10/18/2004
From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net>
To: PCPLANTDB <pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] EIE references

Aloha,

> In the meantime, please read these 2 articles.  I *know* you (at least 
> Lawrence!) will find them interesting, and hopefully relevant.  If you 
> don't have Acrobat or cannot open PDF files for some reason, please let 
> me know and give me alternatives.

They're fat (PDFs are usually absurdly large for the actual information 
they contain) - long download for us dialup types - if they can be found 
via Google, there is sometimes an HTML version viewable...since I have 
no title I can't Google them to see...

> p.s.  Industrial Ecology is something I'm considering pursuing graduate 
> studies in, so I'd be interested in knowing what you think... 

I think the term is a pretty obvious oxymoron.
What all IE claims to be about I don't know yet...
If MBDC ( http://www.mbdc.com/ ) is an example of IE, then the practice 
is also IMO oxymoronic.
A 95% recyclable car is still a car - the problem is the culture of car, 
not the percentage of a car that can be recycled.
A huge "green roof" on a huge Ford plant still shelters the perpetuation 
of the culture of car, in no way mitigating the true and original green 
destroyed by that culture.



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