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  • From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net>
  • To: pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] [synthesis][11][8.18.04]
  • Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 00:50:05 +0000

Aloha,

I do think Zope could be good for some things. When we move onto
stage 2, where we go for a wider content-managment system
with diaries, blogs, wikis, articles, other media. Zope (&plone?) might well searve our needs well.

I see no point in bothering with zope (ever) if an RDB is used. The OO model cannot be grafted on top of an RDB. Zope can talk to an RDB but the issues raised regarding the complexities of implementing for just one example non-trivial guild relationships in an RDB remain behind it all.

Who here thinks they understand the essential differences between an object model and a relational DB model? It's pretty much apples and oranges from the start.

As for mixing all kinds of platforms - have any of the techies here ever dealt with major software/platform integration and related issues? Like using .ASP or .NET with a couple different DB back ends, separated by various bits of middleware, some custom and some commercial, and some heavy client side scripting thrown in for grins and giggles?

That's almost what some of us appear to be proposing.

I have seen (and tested and broken over and over again while programmers struggled to fix bugs while introducing new bugs as they struggled and fell far behind deadline) the consequences in various contexts and it is absolutely a mess - especially when done on purpose! - not only for corporations with lots of money to throw at it but especially for a marginally funded project like this.

What looks better to me is the most tightly integrated development environment we can get to provide us with back end and XML data transmission services.
KISS.

Client stuff can vary more as long as it talks XML. Write it in whatever one wants.
Just make sure there is at least one low-bandwidth vanilla HTML client UI so we can serve the maximum number of the small fraction of humanity that has internet access.



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