Permaculture Database

["Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>]

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: PIW Future
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:25:24 -0400
From: Lawrence F. London, Jr. <lfl@intrex.net>
Reply-To: pcplantdb <pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org>
Organization: Venaura Farm

Chad Knepp wrote:
> Good question Lawrence,
>
> Well, I've pretty much used up my self alloted time this winter and
> never got to working on PIW again, in part for more reasons than are
> easy to list.  I am ready to hand off the project to anyone who feels
> ready (and capable) to make it move forward.  I've been in some
> contact with Lonnie Brown who sounds like he might be interested.  If

Hello Chad:

I guess Lonnie is the person Scott referred to you. He should be on this list 
and the new pcdb one,
forum for a new pc db project that had its start, again, in the permaculture 
list.
I have subbed you to it so you can see what has been discussed so far in the 
archives.
Hope this is OK; you can always unsub. You will probably find it interesting. 
There are a number
of new people in that list who are not in this one.

> no one steps up I will be willing to give it a go again this comming
> winter.  I will continue to do basic maintenance and fix broken bits
> as soon as I am alerted which currently is not more than every two
> weeks.  I still think that this is a valuable/worthwhile project.

So do I and it would be great if someone could put something online that 
would enable
pc people, and farmers around the globe :-), to begin building a pc guild 
database/wiki/blog/cms, something to use to
help identify, describe and document pc guilds but go a bit further and 
reveal relationships between elements within a
permaculture system.

:
observe and describe a collection of elements that occupy a common ecological 
niche
explore the relationships between these elements
propose that this collection of interdependent elements qualify as a guild
+
by this time you have identified a number of elements and their relationships 
to other elements
and entered this data into the plant/animal relationships database while also 
identifying
and documenting a new guild
:

The ideal thing would be for all the people in both lists be combined to work 
on a common project.
Of course there is the need to complete work committed to in Threshhold 
grant. Is PIW/Eden/PCPlantDB as you have
developed it so far and as it may evolve in the future going to be a 
relational database only or can it take a different
form to include such things as wiki, cms, blog, etc. The general thrust of 
discussion in the pcdb forum is that a wiki
could work very well for a pc db. Rich has created a Mediawiki that has the 
PFAF database within.

I guess my curiousity leads me to this question, should everyone pool their 
energy to see your original work through to
completion, as you've conceived it or should we look for multiple 
(PIW/Eden+Mediawiki/CMS/Blog) options or alternatives
to PIW for the software used?

:
:
:
I'd like to help this valuable project along any way I can.
I like the mediawiki idea as well as the rdb one (though that
is as mysterious to me as the color of Schrodinger's cat's fur
but I am sure that if I spent more time exercising PIW's capabilities I
could get on more familiar terms with the rdb apporach).

Cheers,

LL
--
Lawrence F. London, Jr.
Venaura Farm
lfl@intrex.net
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