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- From: DB <pogohome@gmail.com>
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- Subject: Re: [nafex] The heartbreak of grafted pawpaws
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 13:41:52 -0600
Two possibilities. Boulders or high water. I have both. I have two
spots where water will raise to the top and stay for weeks or months. I
now plant raised mounds.
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020, 1:33 PM Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net> wrote:
> I planted my first pawpaws in 2009, I ordered the superior Peterson
> pawpaw varieties directly from Neil himself. One of four survived - a
> Shenandoah that was vigorous until 2015, then visibly declined. I
> removed the dead tree this summer. My working hypothesis was that the
> tree suffered a pruning injury back in 2013 or 2014 that became infected
> with fungus. That Shenandoah was an outlier, but it is the only grafted
> tree that has ever successfully matured fruit for me. It showed me how
> delicious selected pawpaws can be.
>
> Every other grafted pawpaw I have planted (about 16 of them) has died
> but for two five-year-old (at site) trees that are still less than 16
> inches high.
>
> The typical scenario is that the plant will sit for a few years in my
> artificially shaded site as it becomes established. Then in its third or
> fourth year at site it starts rapid growth. Within a year to three years
> of putting on height, it flowers, maybe begins to set fruit (they do not
> always get this old) then midsummer, the leaves suddenly wilt and the
> tree dies within a few months. Post mortems reveal seemingly healthy
> roots, no trunk lesions, no discoloration of cambium. No clue.
>
> The kicker is that I have healthy seedlings all over the place. Some
> seedlings are seven years old, volunteers in the woods where I tossed
> overripe fruit. Some were planted intentionally. The rootstock sprouts
> well if I leave it and seems healthy. Rootstock has started producing
> fruit (not very good fruit). I have divided rootstock from dead grafted
> trees to start new patches with the hope of later grafting. I have not
> seen remaining rootstock, divided rootstock or seedlings die like the
> grafted varieties.
>
> How I care for them:
>
> I water attentively for a couple years after planting, then only when
> weather is unusually dry. I shade the young grafted trees for two -
> three years at site. I only plant trees in spring. I have tried planting
> at ground level and recently higher in mounds to discourage root rot (no
> indication of root rot, just varying procedures).
>
> I plant with no amendments in soil, but top with compost around the
> site. The trunks are not smothered.
>
> This year, I transferred soil from a native pawpaw patch in the woods to
> the struggling small grafted trees in the hope they would get something
> they needed. They still are struggling. I will see next year.
>
> Any ideas? Has anyone else dealt with this?
>
> Pawpawless in central NC zone 7a
>
> Elizabeth
>
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> Bee Well Mobile Veterinary Services, PLLC
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- Re: [nafex] This nafex list, Lawrence London, 11/21/2020
- Re: [nafex] This nafex list, Richard J. Ossolinski, 11/21/2020
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[nafex] fruit for part shade,
Henry, 11/21/2020
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Re: [nafex] fruit for part shade,
Ginda Fisher, 11/21/2020
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Re: [nafex] fruit for part shade,
John Holzwart, 11/21/2020
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Re: [nafex] fruit for part shade,
Mary Yett, 11/22/2020
- Re: [nafex] fruit for part shade, Ginda Fisher, 11/22/2020
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- Re: [nafex] fruit for part shade, mark wessel, 11/23/2020
- Re: [nafex] fruit for part shade, Steve Herje, 11/24/2020
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Re: [nafex] fruit for part shade,
Mary Yett, 11/22/2020
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Re: [nafex] fruit for part shade,
John Holzwart, 11/21/2020
- [nafex] The heartbreak of grafted pawpaws, Elizabeth Hilborn, 11/22/2020
- Re: [nafex] The heartbreak of grafted pawpaws, DB, 11/22/2020
- Re: [nafex] The heartbreak of grafted pawpaws, Mike Levine, 11/22/2020
- Re: [nafex] The heartbreak of grafted pawpaws, Fred Bruns, 11/22/2020
- Re: [nafex] The heartbreak of grafted pawpaws, Louis Pittman, 11/23/2020
- Re: [nafex] Pawpaw seedlings - true to parent?, Elizabeth Hilborn, 11/23/2020
- Re: [nafex] Pawpaw seedlings - true to parent?, Louis Pittman, 11/23/2020
- Re: [nafex] Pawpaw seedlings - true to parent?, Elizabeth Hilborn, 11/23/2020
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Re: [nafex] fruit for part shade,
Ginda Fisher, 11/21/2020
- Re: [nafex] Pawpaw seedlings - true to parent?, DB, 11/23/2020
- Re: [nafex] Pawpaw seedlings - true to parent?, Lee Reich, 11/23/2020
- Re: [nafex] The heartbreak of grafted pawpaws, Henry, 11/23/2020
- Re: [nafex] The heartbreak of grafted pawpaws, DB, 11/24/2020
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