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 You have a runty cultivar growing on a runty rootstock, probably growing in 
runty soil. In other words ,your tree is runted out. Happens all the time out 
here in the harsh conditions of the West. Something is making your roots 
unhappy. Take care of your roots first. Top growth follows root growth. Get 
rid of all the weeds, put compost down. Take off any fruit. Keep it moist. 
Next winter cut it back and maybe it will have enough root to send up some 
top growth.
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 14:23:35 -0400
From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
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Subject: Re: [nafex] no new growth on young apple?
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Well,

There was no clear apex, but one spur is a little higher than the others, and 
it had three leaf clusters emerging from it, and one of those had grown about 
half an inch. So I plucked off the other two clusters, in the hopes that one 
decides its the apex and grows a bit more.

I also trimmed off the top of one twig, just above a bud. Maybe it will 
sprout?

I left the rest of the tree alone. I?ll give it a bit more fertilizer and 
remove some of the weeds at it?s base, as well.

Ginda


> On Jun 5, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us> wrote:
> 
> Maybe this link will work?
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19tocz71O8zdvoXngf1qYQwvWo10BcEeq?usp=sharing
> 
> Yes, normal growth. At least, normal leaves, like at the end of a spur. 
> It?s just that EVERY twig ends like that.
> 
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ginda,
>> 
>> The picture did not come through.
>> 
>> When you say 'rosette' is it normal growth?
>> 
>> On 6/5/2020 8:26 AM, Ginda Fisher wrote:
>>> I was hoping to get some new growth on this apple tree this spring, so I 
>>> could use it as grafting stock. But every twig ends in a rosette, like 
>>> the ones shown below, with nothing sprouting. Is there anything I can do? 
>>> Would it help to cut the rosette off? Would it have helped if I did it 
>>> earlier in the season? Anything else I could do to promote new growth?
>>> 
>>> It?s an Ashmeads Kernel on G205, I think. It?s in a lousy spot, and won?t 
>>> ever get enough sun. (Thus my interest in grafting it to something else, 
>>> somewhere else.)
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any advice,
>>> Ginda Fisher
>>> Eastern MA, zone 6
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> -- 
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>> Bee Well Mobile Veterinary Services, PLLC
>> beewellvet.com
>> 
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Lol.

The rootstock is G202, by the way, and yeah, that probably is a runty 
rootstock.

In addition to all the other problems you mention, there’s not enough light 
in this spot. 

> On Jun 5, 2020, at 3:48 PM, tom garofalo via nafex 
> <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
> 
> You have a runty cultivar growing on a runty rootstock, probably growing in 
> runty soil. In other words ,your tree is runted out. Happens all the time 
> out here in the harsh conditions of the West. Something is making your 
> roots unhappy. Take care of your roots first. Top growth follows root 
> growth. Get rid of all the weeds, put compost down. Take off any fruit. 
> Keep it moist. Next winter cut it back and maybe it will have enough root 
> to send up some top growth.
>     On Friday, June 5, 2020, 11:25:22 AM PDT, 
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> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 14:23:35 -0400
> From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
> To: NAFEX Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] no new growth on young apple?
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> 
> Well,
> 
> There was no clear apex, but one spur is a little higher than the others, 
> and it had three leaf clusters emerging from it, and one of those had grown 
> about half an inch. So I plucked off the other two clusters, in the hopes 
> that one decides its the apex and grows a bit more.
> 
> I also trimmed off the top of one twig, just above a bud. Maybe it will 
> sprout?
> 
> I left the rest of the tree alone. I?ll give it a bit more fertilizer and 
> remove some of the weeds at it?s base, as well.
> 
> Ginda
> 
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us> wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe this link will work?
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19tocz71O8zdvoXngf1qYQwvWo10BcEeq?usp=sharing
>> 
>> Yes, normal growth. At least, normal leaves, like at the end of a spur. 
>> It?s just that EVERY twig ends like that.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ginda,
>>> 
>>> The picture did not come through.
>>> 
>>> When you say 'rosette' is it normal growth?
>>> 
>>> On 6/5/2020 8:26 AM, Ginda Fisher wrote:
>>>> I was hoping to get some new growth on this apple tree this spring, so I 
>>>> could use it as grafting stock. But every twig ends in a rosette, like 
>>>> the ones shown below, with nothing sprouting. Is there anything I can 
>>>> do? Would it help to cut the rosette off? Would it have helped if I did 
>>>> it earlier in the season? Anything else I could do to promote new growth?
>>>> 
>>>> It?s an Ashmeads Kernel on G205, I think. It?s in a lousy spot, and 
>>>> won?t ever get enough sun. (Thus my interest in grafting it to something 
>>>> else, somewhere else.)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for any advice,
>>>> Ginda Fisher
>>>> Eastern MA, zone 6
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Elizabeth Hilborn, DVM
>>> Bee Well Mobile Veterinary Services, PLLC
>>> beewellvet.com
>>> 
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