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[rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>]

Yes, remember eating them Lucky. "cranberry-flavored cardboard" is an unfair 
description in my opinion.I have tasted an number of varieties after that 
(mostly for One Green World). Though I would not eat them just out of hand, I 
would like their flavor as a jam or  candied some how.
Also, last year we had a presentation from a guy  "little John" who makes 
products from the fruits, he in now or edible dogwood interest group chair!!
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    On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:56 PM, Louis Pittman 
<lpittman@murraystate.edu> wrote:
 

 Betsy,
Three seedling (I presume) C.mas trees along the 'riverwalk' here in the
metropolis of Hopkinsville, KY.  I'm sure there's not a half-dozen folks
in town here that even know what they are, much less that the fruits are
edible.
Rob Hamilton was by here once, back around 2001, when they were fruiting, I
think...

I've shared fruits with coworkers/friends.  Not very well received.
As you may know, some have likened them to 'cranberry-flavored cardboard...
with astringency'.  However, I do like them - even before they're soft and
fully ripened.

Many of my pears are breaking dormancy now, as well....

LLP

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net>
wrote:

> Mas fruit. Sounds like my kind of tree!
>
> I am eagerly anticipating the arrival of an "Elegant' and a "Red Dawn". I
> finally found/freed up two proximate partially shaded site that I think
> will suit these trees.
>
> Wish me luck! The growing conditions are getting so unpredictable here:
> bats flying around on Christmas eve, my first Swallowtail butterfly on
> March 8, and my Keiffer pear flowering now!
>
> Betsy Hilborn
> 7a NC
>
>
> On 3/15/2016 5:35 PM, Dr. Lucky Pittman wrote:
>
>> C.mas in full bloom here in KY right now.
>>
>> Saw a post on Facebook one night last week... nice photo, with caption
>> "Cornus mas fruit" , and underneath, the 'see translation hypertext'...
>> clicked on it... "Cornus more fruit"... from Spanish....
>> Duh.  I knew 'mas' meant 'more' in el Espanol... but I'm not certain that
>> that  is where that specific epithet came from.
>>
>> Lucky Pittman
>> Hopkinsville, KY
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Brungardt,
>> Sam (MPCA)
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>> Subject: [nafex] Ancient Fruit Cornelian Cherry Warrants a Comeback (ABC
>> News)
>>
>>
>>
>> Chron.com
>>
>> Ancient Fruit Cornelian Cherry Warrants a Comeback
>> <
>> https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wire
>>
>> Story/ancient-fruit-cornelian-cherry-warrants-comeback-37654386&ct=ga&cd=CAE
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>> QjCNENTrW0QoWVJWcp0fOwMZT5cl6Fnw>
>> ABC News
>> Summer and fall also bring fruits, which, unknown to most people, are
>> edible. The fruits - oval, fire-engine red, with a single stone - look a
>> lot
>> like ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Lee,
Thanks for your excellent book, including this fruit.  While giving a talk
last weekend on 'soft mast' fruits for wildlife, I included this one.
Several folks had not seen them before, but were taken with the fruit
color, with the early bloom for pollinators, with the notion of an edible
dogwood, etc.

I use a pic of three plates of fruit from the same tree:  one harvested
that day, the second held a day at room temp, and the third held two days
at room temp.  The color deepens dramatically each day.  As does the flavor
intensity, and diminution of 'off' flavors.

Been a while since I shared this:
My first encounter with this fruit, at a neighbors house:
Knock-knock:  "We live the next block over, noticed your tree while
walking, could we taste some of the fruit?"
---'No, it's poisonous, I don't want anyone to get hurt.'
"But I'm positive with the bark, opposite leaves, the fruit, that it's
Cornus mas, an edible fruit, people just don't eat it around here."
---'We've always been told it's poisonous, so we've never tried it, or
allowed anyone else to.'
"I have a great book which devotes a whole chapter to this fruit.
Sometimes it's called Cornelian cherry, though it's not really a cherry.
Could I taste a few of them?"
---(Reluctantly):  'Well, you can taste a couple, but I won't let your
daughter eat any, don't want her to be poisoned.'

We both lived to tell about it, she begging for one on the way home.  In
time our own trees bore.

Since then, have noted multiple public locations with trees bearing well.
Such as the ALS building at Oregon State U, in Corvallis.

Our favorite use has been running very ripe fruit through a food mill, for
a fresh dessert something like cranberry relish.  And a jam with the same
goes well on toast.

Richard Moyer, SW VA
Nanking Cherries blooming well this week, first peach blossoms yesterday,
cattle grazing grass three weeks earlier than usual...



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> I devote a whole chapter to Cornus mas in my book Uncommon Fruits for
> Every Garden. One website says that ?mas? means is a Latin prefix meaning
> ?strong?, referring to the wood, which you quickly find out it is, when
> pruning.
>
> That same site states that ?cornelian? comes from ?cornel? which comes
> from ?cornu?, describing hard and tough objects, such as the horn of a
> goat. Researching for my book, however, I found that ?cornelian? refers to
> the fruits similatrity in color to cornelian (or carnelian) quartz.
> Cornelian quartz ?has a waxy luster and a deep red, reddish white, of flesh
> red (?carnis' is Latin for flesh color) color?. Perhaps the ?mas? meaning
> is also wrong; perhaps I?m wrong about Cornus meaning.
>
> Lee Reich, PhD
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> Books by Lee Reich:
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>
> > On Mar 16, 2016, at 12:57 AM, Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us> wrote:
> >
> > I read, probably on this list, that "mas" is for "masculine, since the
> young tree only produces masculine blooms.
> >
> > Ginda Fisher
> >
> > On Mar 15, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Dr. Lucky Pittman wrote:
> >
> >> C.mas in full bloom here in KY right now.
> >>
> >> Saw a post on Facebook one night last week... nice photo, with caption
> >> "Cornus mas fruit" , and underneath, the 'see translation hypertext'...
> >> clicked on it... "Cornus more fruit"... from Spanish....
> >> Duh.  I knew 'mas' meant 'more' in el Espanol... but I'm not certain
> that
> >> that  is where that specific epithet came from.
> >>
> >> Lucky Pittman
> >> Hopkinsville, KY
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
> Brungardt,
> >> Sam (MPCA)
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:34 PM
> >> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> >> Subject: [nafex] Ancient Fruit Cornelian Cherry Warrants a Comeback (ABC
> >> News)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Chron.com
> >>
> >> Ancient Fruit Cornelian Cherry Warrants a Comeback
> >> <
> https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wire
> >>
> Story/ancient-fruit-cornelian-cherry-warrants-comeback-37654386&ct=ga&cd�E
> >>
> YACoUMTIxOTA0OTI2NDc4MTA4MTg1ODgyGmRmZTAxMjc3N2JlODQ1YTY6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg�
> >> QjCNENTrW0QoWVJWcp0fOwMZT5cl6Fnw>
> >> ABC News
> >> Summer and fall also bring fruits, which, unknown to most people, are
> >> edible. The fruits - oval, fire-engine red, with a single stone - look
> a lot
> >> like ...
> >>
> >>
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