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[mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>]

Right, these trees are called Early Richmond, I neglected to write the
full name on the tags, so now I keep forgetting that that is the
actual name.  All the cherry trees were planted in the exact same
block and to some extent intermixed.  The fruits of the Early Richmond
I have are noticeably smaller, not much larger than the Nankings I
grow, actually.  The North Star (& Montmorency) that I lost were all 3
year old trees and I personally wonder if that had more to do with
winterkill.  I've never heard of chilling requirements affecting
winter hardiness.

~mIEKAL


On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)
<sam.brungardt@state.mn.us> wrote:
> 'Richmond' (actually 'Early Richmond') is an old tart cherry variety that 
> ripens a few days before 'Montmorency' but produces slightly smaller fruit. 
>  It is not known for being especially cold hardy, and I wonder whether the 
> 'Northstar' trees you lost because their chilling requirement had been 
> fulfilled, while the 'Early Richmond' trees had not.  I suppose that the 
> chilling requirements of both could be found somewhere on the Internet.  
> Or, were the 'Early Richmond' trees planted in a less cold-prone location?  
> -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, Minn. (Zone 4)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of mIEKAL aND
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 7:57 AM
> To: Anton Callaway; mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit 
> Experimenters
> Subject: Re: [nafex] North Star vs Meteor vs ?
>
> The irony for me is that North Star is often touted as the hardiest of the 
> tart cherries and during our 2014 winter of winters here in z4 sw WI I lost 
> all 15 of my North Stars that were in the ground, which a variety I know 
> almost nothing about, Richmond, had the least winter damage.
>
> ~mIEKAL
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Anton Callaway <marillen@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
>> Mr. Fluffy,
>>
>> 'Northstar' is also my favorite all-around pie cherry.  Perhaps a bit 
>> surprising since my 36 years of orcharding have been in the hot & humid 
>> Southeastern US.  In my Georgia orchard, I had 'Montmorency', Starkspur 
>> Montmorency, 'Meteor' and 'North Star'.  All were good, but 'North Star' 
>> was the most productive and healthy.  Since moving to North Carolina, I've 
>> grown 'North Star', 'Surefire', 'Balaton', 'Carmine Jewel' and recently 
>> added 'Romeo'.  The 'Balaton's were terrible.  Mediocre quality fruit on 
>> an unhealthy tree.  'Surefire' was very productive if we had a good 
>> chilling winter and the cherries were very good quality, but most winters 
>> we don't get enough chilling to please 'Surefire' and it eventually died.
>>
>> 'Carmine Jewel' finally produced well this year and the cherry quality was 
>> very good.  It is a healthy tree, also.  I have had problems in past years 
>> with CJ and brown rot, if we get a lot of rain during ripening season.
>>
>> Of all the pie cherries I've grown, 'North Star' remains the favorite, 
>> although if Carmine Jewel continues to behave like this year, it will 
>> finally be a cherry to equal North Star.  The trees also stay small, like 
>> North Star.
>>
>> Anton
>> North Carolina Piedmont
>> Zone 8
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: fuwa fuwa usagi <fuwafuwausagi@muchomail.com>
>>>Sent: Jun 19, 2015 12:56 AM
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>>>Subject: [nafex] North Star vs Meteor vs ?
>>>
>>>Gang,
>>>
>>>I have been growing NorthStar (sour cherry) for about 20 years now.  I 
>>>must say I am impressed.  It make an attractive addition to the integrated 
>>>landscape, gives copious amounts of fruit for the tree canopy, is easily 
>>>held at 6 feet and is generally insect, disease resistant.
>>>
>>>All that being said I am always up for an improvement.  Does anyone have 
>>>any opinion on Meteor or any other dwarf to semi-dwarf sour cherry?   
>>>Additionally a comparison to NorthStar would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>I am interested in small trees that can be easily netted for the 
>>>integrated urban landscape.
>>>
>>>the fluffy one
>>>
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