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["Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)" <sam.brungardt@state.mn.us>]

'Richmond' (actually 'Early Richmond') is an old tart cherry variety that 
ripens a few days before 'Montmorency' but produces slightly smaller fruit.  
It is not known for being especially cold hardy, and I wonder whether the 
'Northstar' trees you lost because their chilling requirement had been 
fulfilled, while the 'Early Richmond' trees had not.  I suppose that the 
chilling requirements of both could be found somewhere on the Internet.  Or, 
were the 'Early Richmond' trees planted in a less cold-prone location?  -- 
Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, Minn. (Zone 4)

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of mIEKAL aND
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 7:57 AM
To: Anton Callaway; mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit 
Experimenters
Subject: Re: [nafex] North Star vs Meteor vs ?

The irony for me is that North Star is often touted as the hardiest of the 
tart cherries and during our 2014 winter of winters here in z4 sw WI I lost 
all 15 of my North Stars that were in the ground, which a variety I know 
almost nothing about, Richmond, had the least winter damage.

~mIEKAL



On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Anton Callaway <marillen@earthlink.net> 
wrote:
> Mr. Fluffy,
>
> 'Northstar' is also my favorite all-around pie cherry.  Perhaps a bit 
> surprising since my 36 years of orcharding have been in the hot & humid 
> Southeastern US.  In my Georgia orchard, I had 'Montmorency', Starkspur 
> Montmorency, 'Meteor' and 'North Star'.  All were good, but 'North Star' 
> was the most productive and healthy.  Since moving to North Carolina, I've 
> grown 'North Star', 'Surefire', 'Balaton', 'Carmine Jewel' and recently 
> added 'Romeo'.  The 'Balaton's were terrible.  Mediocre quality fruit on an 
> unhealthy tree.  'Surefire' was very productive if we had a good chilling 
> winter and the cherries were very good quality, but most winters we don't 
> get enough chilling to please 'Surefire' and it eventually died.
>
> 'Carmine Jewel' finally produced well this year and the cherry quality was 
> very good.  It is a healthy tree, also.  I have had problems in past years 
> with CJ and brown rot, if we get a lot of rain during ripening season.
>
> Of all the pie cherries I've grown, 'North Star' remains the favorite, 
> although if Carmine Jewel continues to behave like this year, it will 
> finally be a cherry to equal North Star.  The trees also stay small, like 
> North Star.
>
> Anton
> North Carolina Piedmont
> Zone 8
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: fuwa fuwa usagi <fuwafuwausagi@muchomail.com>
>>Sent: Jun 19, 2015 12:56 AM
>>To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters 
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>>Subject: [nafex] North Star vs Meteor vs ?
>>
>>Gang,
>>
>>I have been growing NorthStar (sour cherry) for about 20 years now.  I must 
>>say I am impressed.  It make an attractive addition to the integrated 
>>landscape, gives copious amounts of fruit for the tree canopy, is easily 
>>held at 6 feet and is generally insect, disease resistant.
>>
>>All that being said I am always up for an improvement.  Does anyone have 
>>any opinion on Meteor or any other dwarf to semi-dwarf sour cherry?   
>>Additionally a comparison to NorthStar would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>I am interested in small trees that can be easily netted for the integrated 
>>urban landscape.
>>
>>the fluffy one
>>
>>
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