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any thoughts on the hardiness of Geraldi?  is it as hardy as Illinois
Everbearing?

~mIEKAL



On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Lester Davis <lhdavis8@knology.net> wrote:
> Geraldi mulberry stays dwarf when grafted on other rootstock.  Mine is not 
> over 7 feet tall and diameter about the same and is over 15 years.  It is 
> dwarfed because of the short distance
> between the nodes.  Since the nodes are so close  and the fruit normal size 
> it appears more heavy loaded than any other mulberry.  I have taken 
> softwood cuttings this spring and trying
> to root, have had no success with cuttings taken winter pruning.
>
> Lester H. Davis
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> Subject: Re: [nafex] Pakistan mulberry
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> Does Morus alba cv. 'Geraldi Dwarf' stay dwarfed when grafted unto a
> typical M. alba rootstock.. a few feet above ground?  I like to bury the
> graft union when dealing with dwarfs to maintain this characteristic; just
> buried the union on my M. latifolia 'Kokuso-20' and in the past had done so
> with me M. nigra 'Black Beauty' (doing well so far; NJ Zone 6b/7a.. a few
> years and just a few fruit this year; not vigorous.. buried the union.)
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Lester Davis <lhdavis8@knology.net> wrote:
>
>> I live 100miles southwest of Atlanta.  Winter of 2014 low temp was 12
>> degrees for a short while and then not over 32 all day.  Winter of 2015 had
>> low of 11 degrees for a short while and not over
>> 32 all that day.   No die back at all, none, then the Pakistan began to
>> leaf out in late Feb during a warm-up.   Then we had a few more frosts and
>> most all leaves fell.   It did put out new growth and
>> there were a few fruit this year.   I would say this happens 3 out 4
>> years, but when it does come to  a full fruiting year it is loaded.   The
>> tree is 15 years old and over 30 feet tall and still growing,
>> wish I had kept it pruned.   I have a 'Geraldi' dwarf mulberry, same age,
>> heavy producer over a long period of time.  A black fruit with good taste,
>> for a small yard it is an ideal.
>>
>> Lester H. Davis
>> Columbus, GA
>>
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>> From: "Devin Smith via nafex" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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>> Cc: "Devin Smith" <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 9:08:45 PM
>> Subject: [nafex] Pakistan mulberry
>>
>> I have been thinking about trialing Pakistan mulberry here in Vermont. I
>> understand that it is a real long shot, but given the fact that much of the
>> limitation seems to revolve around 'low chill' requirment, it might just
>> work. Hardiness-wise, I understand Atlanta area saw sub-zero temps. for a
>> couple of nights this past winter. Did those of you in the south who are
>> growing Pakistan experience severe dieback this winter? I'm thinking that
>> our winter weather is consistent enough that the trees would stay dormant,
>> and then I could 1. grow them on the own roots so they can resprout if need
>> be and 2. plant in a protected spot with some extra protection as people do
>> with figs. They sure are delicious, so I think its worth a shot.
>>
>> I also noticed perusing the GRIN database that several other similar
>> selections are available, listed as Morus macroura or 'himalayan mulberry.'
>> One in particular DMOR 9  looks similar to 'pakistan', though a bit
>> scrawnier, and the description seems to suggest zone 5 hardiness, though on
>> second look I noticed this is merely a snippet from a seed savers exchange
>> write-up about the species. Anyone know anything about hardy higher-chill
>> macroura selections that might be a good stand in for
>> 'pakistan'?
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