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[Lester Davis <lhdavis8@knology.net>]

I live 100miles southwest of Atlanta.  Winter of 2014 low temp was 12 degrees 
for a short while and then not over 32 all day.  Winter of 2015 had low of 11 
degrees for a short while and not over 
32 all that day.   No die back at all, none, then the Pakistan began to leaf 
out in late Feb during a warm-up.   Then we had a few more frosts and most 
all leaves fell.   It did put out new growth and 
there were a few fruit this year.   I would say this happens 3 out 4 years, 
but when it does come to  a full fruiting year it is loaded.   The tree is 15 
years old and over 30 feet tall and still growing, 
wish I had kept it pruned.   I have a 'Geraldi' dwarf mulberry, same age, 
heavy producer over a long period of time.  A black fruit with good taste, 
for a small yard it is an ideal.   
  
Lester H. Davis 
Columbus, GA 

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From: "Devin Smith via nafex" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> 
To: "Mailing List at Ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters" 
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Cc: "Devin Smith" <dvidedevo@yahoo.com> 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 9:08:45 PM 
Subject: [nafex] Pakistan mulberry 

I have been thinking about trialing Pakistan mulberry here in Vermont. I 
understand that it is a real long shot, but given the fact that much of the 
limitation seems to revolve around 'low chill' requirment, it might just 
work. Hardiness-wise, I understand Atlanta area saw sub-zero temps. for a 
couple of nights this past winter. Did those of you in the south who are 
growing Pakistan experience severe dieback this winter? I'm thinking that our 
winter weather is consistent enough that the trees would stay dormant, and 
then I could 1. grow them on the own roots so they can resprout if need be 
and 2. plant in a protected spot with some extra protection as people do with 
figs. They sure are delicious, so I think its worth a shot. 

I also noticed perusing the GRIN database that several other similar 
selections are available, listed as Morus macroura or 'himalayan mulberry.' 
One in particular DMOR 9  looks similar to 'pakistan', though a bit 
scrawnier, and the description seems to suggest zone 5 hardiness, though on 
second look I noticed this is merely a snippet from a seed savers exchange 
write-up about the species. Anyone know anything about hardy higher-chill 
macroura selections that might be a good stand in for 
'pakistan'? 
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