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["Idell Weydemeyer" <iwgarden@earthlink.net>]

Bay Laurel Nursery generally carries bababerris-- the description shows it
with a patent #--
http://www.baylaurelnursery.com/virtuemart-all-categories.html?page=shop.pro
duct_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=166&category_id=20   

Their description --Extra large red raspberries up to 1" long. Fine flavor,
excellent for all uses. Hardy to 0 degrees F, but does well in warmest
climates of the USA. Large crop in June and a smaller one in fall. Patent
No. 4732.  


I thought the berry was originally discovered in the mountains near Palm
Springs California-- but cannot find that information. 

Idell Weydemeyer zone 9 a

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of dwoodard@becon.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 6:08 PM
To: acarterwriter@tznet.com; nafex mailing list at ibiblio
Subject: Re: [nafex] Baba Berry and Kiowa Blackberry and AR varieties

> I had thought Don Yellman had called Baba Berry a raspberry?
> Despite praise for the Baba Berry, I still find few sources for it.
> One source shows of picture of it looks like a blackberry:
> http://www.tytyga.com/Baba-Blackberry-Plants-p/baba-blackberry-plants.htm
> but this article from the LA Times has a picture of Baba that is red:
>
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/22/food/la-fo-marketwatch-sherman-oaks-
> temple20110422
>
> I have always been reluctant to bring in brambles.
> I grew up with some raspberries red and yellow that yielded OK for some
> years but then gradually got viruses and after production declined it took
> many years to get rid of the plants that kept persisting and even
> spreading.  But now there's an area at the corner of the backyard that has
> two black walnuts getting pretty large and one of the few plants that
> naturally associate with black walnuts is brambles.  So if I want
> production of anything else out of the space, it means brambles.   I'm
> hoping that 10 years from now or whenever the brambles become
> unproductive,
> I'll find some way to smother the brambles.
>
> A blackberry I thought of bringing in is Kiowa because of large berry
> size,
> vigor.  Can someone comment on Baba vs. Kiowa?  And can anyone cite a
> reasonably-priced source for either that is recently out of tissue
> culture?
>
>
> As for where-to-buy, I found a page Arkansas [who bred most the current
> blackberries] has listing authorized sellers of its patented varieties:
>
http://www.aragriculture.org/horticulture/fruits_nuts/blackberries/licensedp
> rop.htm   Thanks  Charlie in Massachusetts
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