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Rob,
I have found virtually all pawpaw seeds sink in water.  And cutting open one 
that does not ink reveals a tiny air bubble just under the shell - no idea 
whether that would have made it non-viable.
Jim

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>From: rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Dec 29, 2011 6:08 PM
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>Subject: [nafex ibiblio list] pawpaw seed viability
>
>I was told you can check a seeds viability by seeing if it sinks of floats.  
>Would this be true for pawpaw seeds as well?
>
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> From: Chris Garriss <cgarriss@garriss.net>
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>Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [nafex ibiblio list] Fwd: Please Help Us Preserve Historic 
>Apple Varieties
> 
>I think most of you "apple people" know Lee Calhoun. Several years ago
>(actually more than that) Lee supplied hundreds of southern heirloom apple
>trees he grafted from his orchard to a North Carolina historic site:  Horne
>Creek Farm (http://www.nchistoricsites.org/horne/horne.htm  An article
>about the apple orchard is at
>http://mtairynews.com/bookmark/14651910-Expert-shares-knowledge-about-8216-Old-Southern-Apples-8217-at-Horne-Creek
>).
>The orchard is not well known, and is not located at the main site.  But
>it is, or at least was, open to the public.  The idea was to preserve the
>apples, some of which I don't think existed  outside of Lee's orchard.  I'm
>not sure, but at one time I'd heard that they eventually would be able to
>supply small quantities of scions.
>
>This is a "sort of" governmental site:  there is a deer proof fence around
>the orchard, which I believe the state paid for as well as provided the
>land; Lee donated his time and the trees.  And, used to go there annually
>to prune the trees.  Some of the apples are indeed not endangered, others
>are or used to be.  But they represent a small, localized slice of the
>whole.
>
>And, I worry about what might happen to Lee's collection.  While I
>sincerely hope he is around for a long, long time the reality is that he is
>not young.  I have no idea what arrangements might have been made regarding
>his collection. As recently as a year ago he was still collecting, finding
>trees he had looked for over a very long period of time, he published a
>second edition of his book recently.
>
>But as you say there do not appear to be comprehensive and verified
>germplasm repositories in many countries, nor an interest on the
>governmental level.
>
>Chris
>
>On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:52 PM, <david.maxwell@dal.ca> wrote:
>
>> This raises a larger issue.  There are government-sponsored germplasm
>> repositories in most
>> countries, (some better than others), whose mission is precisely this.
>>  Where does support
>> from the public purse end and the responsibility of private afficionados
>> take up?  (Just
>> parethetically, I don't think there is any risk of Ben Davis, Gravenstein,
>> or Fameuse (Snow)
>> being lost, and they would hardly rate as either "rarest" or "most
>> valuable" apple varieties, in
>> my opinion.  But then I am getting to be an old curmudgeon.)  I am much
>> more concerned by
>> what might happen to the collections maintained by people like Nick
>> Bottner, which truly are
>> unique and valuable.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Begin forwarded message:
>> >
>> > From: Diane at Seed Savers Exchange <membership@seedsavers.org>
>> > Date: December 28, 2011 11:59:37 AM PST
>> > Subject: Please Help Us Preserve Historic Apple Varieties
>> > Reply-To: Diane at Seed Savers Exchange <membership@seedsavers.org>
>> >
>> > Help us protect 350 of our country's rarest and most valuable apple
>> varieties.
>> > Have you considered Seed Savers Exchange for your year-end donations? We
>> thank you for your membership and continued support!
>> >
>> > In October, Seed Savers Exchange broke ground on an expansion of our
>> > Historic Apple Orchard that will help us protect over 350 of our
>> > country's rarest and most valuableapple varieties. Like all of our
>> > preservation efforts here at Heritage Farm, we are depending on your
>> > generous support to make this project a reality.
>> >
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