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["Dr. Chiranjit Parmar" <parmarch_mnd@dataone.in>]

Hovenia dulcis information has been collected from various sources.  So 
cannot say.

Kaki persimmon is not a very important commercial fruit crop here.  It was 
introduced at a few places.  In my state we have only 4-5 varieties, which 
all astringent.  No rootstock trial has ever been conducted here on this 
fruit.  In fact, very few people even know persimmon in India.  I do not 
think that this fruit will assume commercial importance here.

I was once in Japan for 7 weeks on a lecture fellowship.  Only then I 
learned how important was it as a fruit.

The size of D. lotus may vary from tree to tree in the hills as each 
location is different from suitability point of view.  This fruit is not 
cultivated.


Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
186/3 Jail Road
Mandi HP 175001, India
01905-222810; 094181-81323
www.fruitipedia.com

-----Original Message----- 
From: Steven Covacci
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:27 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] size of mature Kaki persimmon and Japanese raisin; 
nafex Digest, Vol 106, Issue 19

Hi Dr. Chiranjit,


Don't you find that non-astringent Kaki graft-reject eventually?  Also, I 
just saw a 30' tall Diospyros lotus - and ate the fruit.  So, do you think 
that Kaki slightly dwarfs the lotus persimmon.  Maybe I over-estimated the 
lotus tree's height that I saw.  The fruit was like that of a low-sugar D. 
virginiana persimmon.


Also, the website you directed to me indicates that Hovenia dulcis 
(Japanese-raisin tree) gets to be a large 60' tree; however, most of the 
material online seems to indicate that it gets to be almost 30' in 
cultivation.  Theoretically, D. lotus can get as high as 60 to 90' in it's 
native habitat; yet, in the USA and UK, it never exceeds 30'.  However, 
Hovenia dulcis does, sometimes, get as high - there is only one or two 
examples that I know of it getting super-large.


Steve


Dear Steven,

There is chapter on Japanese raisin tree in Fruitipedia at the link,
http://fruitipedia.com/japanese_raisin.htm and also chapter on kaki
persimmon at the link, http://fruitipedia.com/Persimmon.htm.

I have not seen trees of Asian persimmon growing taller than 20 ft in India.
We use D. lotus as rootstock.


Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
186/3 Jail Road
Mandi HP 175001, India
01905-222810; 094181-81323
www.fruitipedia.com





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