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  • From: John S <swim_at_svc@yahoo.com>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] cudrania
  • Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:47:35 -0800 (PST)

And they do start relatively easy from cuttings about a pencil's width thick.



--- On Sat, 3/12/11, Richard Moyer <ramoyer@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Richard Moyer <ramoyer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] cudrania
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 2:17 PM

Message: 12
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:36:09 -0800 (PST)
Rob,
Got mine from Sherwood Akin, rooted on its own.  So not grafted to
Osage Orange (Maclura pomifera).  Advantage of this is having root
suckers to share or sell.  Also, when major limbs died back or the
whole plant died to the ground, what came back strong for me was Che
and not Osage Orange.

Adam Turtle, longtime Nafex member, stresses the importance of
uncommon fruit or cultivars being on their own roots, or at least
planted well below the graft union, for germplasm preservation.

We found the Che fruit must be dead ripe, to the point of having small
black spots on it (think very ripe banana peel with spots), then the
flavor was best to our taste.  Have heard people say they ate one (red
but still quite firm) and they wondered why anyone would eat this.

As for ice cream, smoothies, the pigments in the cudrania fruit give a
very intense red color, unlike that of blackberries, gooseberries, red
raspberries, etc.

Yes, it was a race some years for the fruit to ripen at 1800 ft,
southern appalachian highlands, before defoliation.  All fruit ripened
most years, on bushes planted in a north sloping bank.
Richard Moyer
SW VA
Transplanting currants and gooseberries before they leaf out.


From: rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] cudrania - repair grafts
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If you have had cudrania for a wile or you hav hear A.J. Bullard's talk on
them,
you will know that after some years the base Osage orange will out grow the
cudrania and the graft will begin to brake.

I was wondering anyone had done any repair grafts to this of other trees to
exend the life.


I have read about inarching or bride graft, but I have never seen it done.
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There is a book titled, "Plant Propagation, Principles and Practices" by
Hudson Hartmann and Dale Kester.
I have the second edition, hardbound, printed in 1968.
For the 'initiate' such as myself, it was a gold mine.
Theory for the science-minded, methods for the practical.
Seeds, cuttings, grafting, layering, and good diagrams. 700 pages.

My book cost $4.00 used, on Alibris.com, and I refer to it all the time.

Murph






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