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["Richard Wagner" <rewagner@centurytel.net>]

Racists!!!. So according to F&W black is beautiful, white is bad?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:58 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Caution on Muscovy Ducks

My mistatement.  What I really was referring to was phenotype, the shape, 
color, weight typical of the species.  Although there share the same genes 
as the wild type, domestic muscovies in some cases have been selected for 
various genetic mutations, particularly when it comes to coloration. -- Sam

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Richard Wagner
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:54 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Caution on Muscovy Ducks

THERE ARE NO DOMESTIC GENES AND WILD GENES. There are only genes. All these
genes originated from the same source.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:05 AM
To: rosholdt@erols.com ; North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Caution on Muscovy Ducks

In this ruling, I believe that the F&WS distinguished between domestic
muscovies and those that were of wild genetics (the type one would see in a
zoo).

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Rosholdt
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:58 AM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [NAFEX] Caution on Muscovy Ducks

Last fall the US Fish & Wildlife Services passed a regulation that no
one could keep Muscovies as pets or for other domestic purposes other
than meat - or transfer them - they were to be "wild only" and belonged
only in their native area, Texas.
http://regulations.justia.com/view/166727/

There was significant outcry from the startled owners.  F&W said they
were "surprised" that people were using Muscovies for many domestic
purposes (including egg-laying, showing, etc.) and the rule has been
revisited.  See article:

http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-industry-news/2010/10/22/muscovy-duck-regulations-revisited.aspx


But anyone with Muscovies should keep an eye on this.

Word to wise,
Barb Rosholdt
z7

> Subject:> Re: [NAFEX] ducks
> From:> "Richard Wagner" <rewagner@centurytel.net>
> Date:> Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:09:51 -0600
> To:> "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>
> Richard Wagner,
>
> Muscovy ducks are good flyers, much better than wild turkeys for example.
> I have seen ours fly as a flock 100-150 feet high and for 1.25 miles
> (circular route).
>
> The can also dive. One I observed a large unidentifiable bird approaching
> the pond. The ducks recognized it the same time as I did and they all
> dived below the surface scattering underwater. They eventually popped up
> about 100+ feet. THe bird was a bald eagle. They are not frightened by
> large hawks or vultures so they can distinguish species and not just size.

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