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Hey All,

Just a sidebar on Roundup.  When Roundup got onto the market in Europe it was 
labeled as biodegradeable.  Later testing forced Monsanto to remove that 
label, which they quietly did. It had been determined that after 2 or 3 
months,it had very little breakdown.  

Jim Elie


---- Hector Black <hblack1925@fastmail.fm> wrote: 
> I'd like to just repeat a comment on Roundup that I made some years ago.  I 
> had read about the low toxicity and early breaking down of Roundup and 
> thought it would be safe on some weeds growing under Japanese crabapples on 
> our walkway.  I was careful to avoid touching the leaves of the crabapples 
> even with drift.  For the following TWO  years the leaves on the lower 
> branches came out distorted.;  Never used Roundup again.    Hector Black 
> zone 6 middle TN
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leslie Moyer" <unschooler@lrec.org>
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?
> 
> 
>   On 9/28/10 6:42 PM, Matt Demmon wrote:
> > Most people consider glyphosate (active ingredient in Roundup) to be
> > one of the 'least toxic' of herbicides. It's supposedly not very
> > persistent, and not very harmful to humans.
> A true statement about "most people", I imagine, and I used to feel the
> same way. However, there has been plenty of information to the contrary.
> Here's an excerpt from a post I sent to another list earlier this spring
> that references the medical journal, Toxicology:
> 
> This is such an important topic in light of the huge increase in
> "Roundup Ready" seed use in the last few years.
> 
> http://www.motherearthnews.com/Sustainable-Farming/Roundup-Weed-Killer-Toxicity.aspx?utm_content=05.26.10+SLCS&utm_campaign=SLCS&utm_source=iPost&utm_medium=email
> 
> To protect our health, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
> sets maximum legal residue levels for every pesticide, for dozens of
> crops. But a new study in the respected journal Toxicology has shown
> that, at low levels that are currently legal on our food, Roundup could
> cause DNA damage, endocrine disruption and cell death. The study,
> conducted by French researchers, shows glyphosate-based herbicides are
> toxic to human reproductive cells.
> 
> <<snip>>
> 
> "... If a pregnant woman were to be exposed early in gestation, it looks
> like these herbicides could have an effect during the sexual
> differentiation stage. They really lock in on testosterone.”
> 
> <<snip>>
> 
> Despite being termed “inert,” these added (and usually secret)
> ingredients are anything but benign, as the manufacturers have claimed
> for decades. The new French research found the surfactants not only
> amplify the effects of glyphosate, but glyphosate also amplifies the
> effects of the surfactants. Basically, one plus one equals something
> larger than two.
> 
> <<snip>>
> 
> More in the article at the link above and you can find more about
> glyphosate's toxicity--to humans and other biological creatures--if you
> begin to look around.
> 
> -Leslie
> 
> 
> 
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