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- From: "Dr. Lucky Pittman" <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
- To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?
- Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:27:16 -0500
Oh yeah. Mother Earth News - that highly respected peer-reviewed scientific
journal.
I'm not saying that Roundup is totally innocuous, but in the grand scheme of
things, I'd much prefer that it be used in conjunction with no/low-till
farming practices over the use of wholesale plowing which results in
accelerated soil erosion and use of other, more persistent herbicides, like
atrazine.
-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of loneroc
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 6:10 AM
To: Unschooler@lrec.org; North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?
Roundup that is applied directly to the trunk is hardly likely to distribute
widely in the environment, unlike the use of the chemical on Roundup Ready
crops, where mass quantities are released directly into the environment.
Organic is cool, but application of Roundup to tree trunks is unlikely to
pose a risk to the property owner.
Loneroc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leslie Moyer" <unschooler@lrec.org>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?
On 9/28/10 6:42 PM, Matt Demmon wrote:
> Most people consider glyphosate (active ingredient in Roundup) to be
> one of the 'least toxic' of herbicides. It's supposedly not very
> persistent, and not very harmful to humans.
A true statement about "most people", I imagine, and I used to feel the
same way. However, there has been plenty of information to the contrary.
Here's an excerpt from a post I sent to another list earlier this spring
that references the medical journal, Toxicology:
This is such an important topic in light of the huge increase in
"Roundup Ready" seed use in the last few years.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Sustainable-Farming/Roundup-Weed-Killer-Toxic
ity.aspx?utm_content=05.26.10+SLCS&utm_campaign=SLCS&utm_source=iPost&utm_me
dium=email
To protect our health, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
sets maximum legal residue levels for every pesticide, for dozens of
crops. But a new study in the respected journal Toxicology has shown
that, at low levels that are currently legal on our food, Roundup could
cause DNA damage, endocrine disruption and cell death. The study,
conducted by French researchers, shows glyphosate-based herbicides are
toxic to human reproductive cells.
<<snip>>
"... If a pregnant woman were to be exposed early in gestation, it looks
like these herbicides could have an effect during the sexual
differentiation stage. They really lock in on testosterone."
<<snip>>
Despite being termed "inert," these added (and usually secret)
ingredients are anything but benign, as the manufacturers have claimed
for decades. The new French research found the surfactants not only
amplify the effects of glyphosate, but glyphosate also amplifies the
effects of the surfactants. Basically, one plus one equals something
larger than two.
<<snip>>
More in the article at the link above and you can find more about
glyphosate's toxicity--to humans and other biological creatures--if you
begin to look around.
-Leslie
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Re: [NAFEX] Fig exploring in NC
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- Re: [NAFEX] Fig exploring in NC, loneroc, 09/29/2010
- Re: [NAFEX] Fig exploring in NC, Chris Garriss, 09/29/2010
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[NAFEX] Fig exploring in WI,
mIEKAL aND, 09/29/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Fig exploring in WI,
Doreen Howard, 09/29/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Fig exploring in WI,
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- Re: [NAFEX] Fig exploring in WI, Robert Bruns, 09/29/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Fig exploring in WI,
Lee Reich, 09/29/2010
- Re: [NAFEX] Fig exploring in WI, mIEKAL aND, 09/29/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Fig exploring in WI,
mIEKAL aND, 09/29/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Fig exploring in WI,
Doreen Howard, 09/29/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?,
Leslie Moyer, 09/28/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?,
loneroc, 09/29/2010
- Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?, Dr. Lucky Pittman, 09/29/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?,
Mark Angermayer, 09/29/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?,
Leslie Moyer, 09/29/2010
- Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?, Mark Angermayer, 09/29/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?,
Leslie Moyer, 09/29/2010
- Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?, Hilborn . E, 09/29/2010
- Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?, Hector Black, 09/29/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?,
Hector Black, 09/29/2010
- Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump to Roundup, jelie, 09/29/2010
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Re: [NAFEX] Safest Systemic Killer for Stump?,
loneroc, 09/29/2010
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