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Tried that a few years ago. I aproach Bob on
some plum or hazelnut seeds and was told that They can't find time for sending
seeds,plants out that I should come to the Fuit Festival that they have in June,
which I might finally get to this year
Evelyn
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Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Availability of
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Hello Sarah,
I would suggest you hook up with a plant
breeder and participate in a participatory plant breeding project. In
this case the plant breeder would send material to several growers who would
contribute time and land to the project. I'm not sure who all is
working on cherry plums but I suspect Bob Bors may be and Brian Smith in
Northern Wisconsin is working on all kinds of hardy prunus. I would
think also that NAFEX as an organization could ask for material - for
exemple if 3 or 4 nafex members were interested in testing cherry plums
under different conditions using the same protocoles and data taking
methods.
All the best,
Kristine, NE Québec, foot or so of wet snow on
the ground -exceptionally mild winter,
spring coming on way too fast
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Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Availability of
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Hi David,
I just heard about the change in policy
from an email forwarded by a friend told she wasn't getting anything this
year! I'm completely annoyed. I agree that we should support
the nurseries out there and I have/do, but most of the stuff in Canada's
clonal genebank isn't available anywhere else. For instance, I
bought a ton of rootstock last year so I could graft their entire cherry
plum collection. I have an entire box full of printed catalogues and
a long list of bookmarked nurseries, but I already have every cherry plum
commercially available. On the other hand, CCG has the entire greek
alphabet series and now they won't let me have them!
Seriously, how many people in Canada want cherry plum material? And
I'm using Cherry plums just as an example: I loaded up on pear rootstock
too planning to graft some varieties this spring, thankfully I grafted
about 75 kinds apples last year.
Could you please send me the
address (email or otherwise) where you protested? I would like to add a
letter of complaint too.
Do you have any information on what
I would have to do to be recognized as a "bona fide researcher or breeder"
to get this exemption? I like to tell people (a bit tongue in cheek)
that I own/operate a 'husband funded private research station' and plan to
get into breeding red fleshed desert apples, but I need the start-up
materials to do that! If I could get an exemption, I'd be happy to
request materials for others!!!
Sarah
zone 3
Edmonton,
AB
I have recently encountered an issue with the provision of
grafting wood from the Canadian
Germplasm Repository. They have
determined that I am neither a "bona fide researcher nor
a breeder",
and hence am not entitled to obtain grafting wood from the Repository (the
equivalent of the National Plant Germplasm System in the States).
Obviously this
determination applies to virtually all the Canadian
NAFEX members, (other than the staff of
the dwindling number of govt
research stations and multinational agribusiness employees.) I
have
registered my objection to this interpretation, which represents a
substantial change
from the practice to date. But to bolster my
argument I need information from other
jurisdictions. Am I correct in
my belief that ordinary citizens of the US can request material
from
the various repositories maintained by the NPGS? And that my cousins in
the UK can
get wood from Brogdale or Long Ashton? And so on for
Holland, France, India, etc.? Note
that the issue here has nothing to
do with disease transmission, quarantine, prohibition of
importation
of specfic material into specific states, etc. Rather it hinges
specifically on the
perceived mandate of the Repository, which is
restricted to "bona fide researchers". And
amateur growers are not, in
their eyes. (I note that the NPGS also state that "Germplasm is
available in small quantities for research purposes" ; obviously if my
belief that people
outside academic centres and government labs can
nevertheless access materials in the
States is correct, the crux of
the issue hinges on the definition of a "researcher". (I think
NAFEX
members, and all the train of amateur fruit growers who preceded us have
done far
more legitimate real world research than all the white coated
lab types.)
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