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  • From: Anton Callaway <marillen@earthlink.net>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] More Cherry information/ Carmine Jewel
  • Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:40:04 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

Ginda,

I can't yet say whether or not 'Carmine Jewel' thrives here in Piedmont North
Carolina, but it has been growing the last two years here- no delayed bud
break and pretty good disease resistance so far. No fruit yet. We'll see.

Anton
Zone 8


-----Original Message-----
>From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
>Sent: Feb 15, 2010 8:19 PM
>To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] More Cherry information/ Carmine Jewel
>
>How far south do these cherries thrive? I'm in eastern MA, and they sound
>interesting. How does the flavor compare to Bing or Montmorency cherries?
>Or to wild black cherries?
>
>Do you know of any sources that can ship them to the US? I know that St.
>Lawrence Nursery (in NY) carries Evans, but that's a little large. I'm much
>more interested in a bush.
>
>Thanks,
>Ginda
>
>On Feb 15, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Sarah Kehler Ewing wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> All the emails have been talking about vegetative reproduction by which I
>> can only assume they mean propagation by suckers. Each of the U. of S.
>> and Evan's cherries sucker to some extent, some much more than others!
>> They can be propagated by cuttings, but it is not easy. The experts I
>> know assure me that it requires rooting hormones, steady and precise
>> bottom heat combined with misting from above. And after all this: I'm
>> reluctant to chop anything off my cherry trees as they are small bushes.
>>
>> I've also not seen bacterial gummosis on anything but my peaches and
>> apricots.
>>
>> Of all the Canadian cherries there are only a few differences: Evan's
>> cherry grows as a tree with oval shaped pits (can use a pitter, just very
>> carefully!) whereas the others are bushes and have round pits. Depending
>> on the source (yes, the naming was screwed up right from the minute they
>> were named) Juliette (from DNA gardens) or Valentine (from everyone else)
>> is the tart, light red of the 6 U. of S. cherries while all the rest are
>> very dark coloured. Evan's is also light red. I don't notice a lot of
>> taste difference between any of the dark U. of S. cherries or the Rose
>> Cherry. I will say that of all my trees, its a Crimson Passion that
>> consistently gives me an extra 20 or so free trees a year whether I want
>> them or not!
>>
>>
>> There are quite a few Canadian sources for these cherries:
>>
>> Dominion Seed House: www.dominion-seed-house.com
>> has 2 1/2 inch pots of Juliette and Romeo available for $27.00/1, $72.90/3
>> or $48.00/pair or $89.10/3 pairs.
>>
>> T&T Seeds: www.ttseeds.com
>> has Carmine Jewel for $12.05/12" tree, 2 or more for $11.95 each and
>> orchard packs of 10 for $105.00. They also have Crimson Passion and Romeo
>> for $14.95/12" tree, 2 or more for $13.95 each and orchard packs of 10 for
>> $125.00. They also have the Rose Cherry for $15.95/12" tree and 2 or more
>> for $14.95. I have these and they have a nice size fruit with excellent
>> flavour.
>>
>> McFayden: www.mcfayden.com
>> has Cupid cherries for $19.95/1, $18.95/each for 2 and $17.95 each for 3
>> or more.
>>
>> Boughen Nurseries at Valley River, MB: www.boughennurseries.net
>> seems to be the only source that carries all of the cherries (they also
>> have Evan's, but the price got cut off!!) and they have always shipped me
>> very nice huge trees that have great roots so don't be off put by the
>> prices.
>> They have Carmine Jewel and the Rose Cherry for $22.75 each. They have
>> Crimson Passion and Valentine for $26.95 each. And they have Cupid,
>> Juliette and Romeo for $25.95 each
>>
>> Sarah
>> zone 3
>> Edmonton, AB
>>
>>> With all the recent activity around
>>> Carmine Jewel, I would like to try growing it here on the
>>> East Coast (South Shore of NS). The U Sask site lists
>>> several suppliers in the East, none of
>>> which actually have any. I gather that it is pretty
>>> easy to root from hardwood cuttings; would
>>> you be willing to cut me a few sticks, and send them to
>>> me? I shall root them myself.
>>>
>>> I had a couple of cherry trees (North Star and Meteor), but
>>> they rapidly succumbed to
>>> bacterial gummosis, (for which I gather there is no cure
>>> beyond ripping them out and burning
>>> them.) Whether the same thing would happen to bush
>>> cherries I have no idea.
>>>
>>
>>
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