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  • From: <jelie@new.rr.com>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Russian olives
  • Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:16:58 -0400

Hey Lee,

I discovered an omission. I failed to mention that I placed the previously
soaked seeds in the plastic bag with a damp paper towel and then placed that
in the REFRIGERATOR.

Thanks,

Jim Elie


---- jelie@new.rr.com wrote:
> Hey Lee,
>
> Sure, no problem with sending some seeds your way. Just send your address
> to me outside of the listserv and I will get them in the mail.
>
> I have to admit that I got the idea to order some igde/senjed fruit from
> the Plants for a Future website. There was some discussion on whether they
> were actually elaeagnus or some other fruit so I decided I would check it
> out for myself. I found they were in fact elaeagnus and knew I would plant
> out a few. The soaking regimen was roughly that recommended for apple
> pippins by Phil Forsline of the USDA. I soaked the seeds for about 4-6
> days (sorry, wasn't keeping records) while repeating water changes. I then
> placed them in with a damp paper towel in a plastic bag and monitored. I
> periodically disinfected them with a 1:10 bleach solution as needed. At
> around 3 months I started planting them out but had no germination in the
> refrigerator up to that time. A few that remained were germinating in the
> refrigerator at around four months. I transplanted the rest of the seeds
> outdoors and have had good success with the seedlings coming up with no
> noticeable signs of disease or
> pests so far.
>
> My Trebizond Dates from One Green World seem to be holding their own so
> far. I transplanted all of them into larger containers after dividing some
> of the trunk sections. They seem to have had a decent year.
>
> Enjoyed your Uncommon Fruits
>
> Jim Elie
> Green Bay WI
> zone 4/5
>
>
>
> ---- Lee Reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > Any chance that I could get a half-dozen or so seeds of igde from you
> > for planting? Years ago I got some from the USDA but they never
> > germinated.
> >
> > In my book about uncommon fruits, I wrote that the seeds did not
> > germinate readily, often waiting until the second season unless they
> > were nicked, soaked in acid, kept warm and moist for a few weeks,
> > cracked out of their seed coats, or washed for 6 days to leach out
> > inhibitors. Sounds like you found none of this to be true. (Maybe I
> > read my own book too closely about how hard the seeds are to germinate!)
> >
> > If your seedlings are growing well, you're probably home free.
> > Whenever I've put in plants of King Red, they've always collapsed
> > before the end of their first season, something Hector Black, in
> > Tennessee, also noted.
> >
> > Lee
> > Lee Reich, PhD
> > http://www.leereich.com/
> >
> > Books by Lee Reich:
> > A Northeast Gardener's Year
> > The Pruning Book
> > Weedless Gardening
> > Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
> > Landscaping with Fruit
> >
>
>
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