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[Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com>]

Hi, Jerry.

Thanks so much for the very helpful info and picture.  I'm not sure how 
to translate the time from seed to grafted plants.  Maybe whatever the 
rootstock is that has now grown out is female, so the extra time till 
flowering.  Everything seems to be retarded in its growth here at this 
elevation.  I'm pretty sure this plant is at least 7 or 8 years old and 
maybe older and is barely over my head for the first time this year.  Hmm.

The leaves look like in your picture.  To me they are just softer and 
lusher looking than our usual tree leaves, hence "tropical".

My newer persimmons are a named variety that I got on its own roots 
because my previous attempts to grow them all resulted in the top being 
killed for several seasons.

Do the female flowers look similar to the male ones?

Best,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Cutts Graduate Reviews
800-353-4898 day or eve, 7 days
(In NM, 505-281-0684)




Jwlehman@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/4/2009 12:31:43 AM Central Daylight Time, 
> orders@cuttsreviews.com writes:
> > Is this normal for it to take so long to start flowering?  Or are flower
> > buds maybe being killed?  I've never seen anything on it that looks like
> > a flower bud.
> >
> > The trees are quite beautiful with their large, soft tropical looking
> > leaves and it has taken me many years to get named varieties to
> > survive.  Now I'm waiting for fruit. 
>        
>
> Good Morning Jay,
>
> Male persimmons normally flower about the 5th year from seed. They 
> normally precede the females by two years. The flowers are small and 
> light yellow and not easy to see along with the green calyx. They 
> bloom in early June here in zone 5b.
>
>
>
> I almost wonder if you have persimmon. I'd never describe a persimmon 
> as "soft tropical looking leaves." Some will have a red tint until the 
> leaves mature and normally slick shinny surface. A few will be 
> pubescent on the under side. But if you got them from a nursery I'd 
> find it hard to believe you received something other than D. virginiana. 
>
> Jerry
>
>
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