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  • From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Fruit day U of Idaho Parma
  • Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:34:43 -0700

Alborz is a sport of the commercial variety Flame Seedless. It's a bit earlier and colors better.
Ralli is a sport of a Sunworld variety. Don't let them catch you with it. They are even using DNA testing to prosecute unlicensed growers of their varieties, and Ralli is covered by the contracts they use.
NY 47616 ("Shelly") is one Cornell withdrew from testing because as the name suggests, it shells off the clusters very badly. Tastes great, but some years you can shake it off the vine with a stiff breeze. NY 65.479.1 was a blue seedless, one of Cornell's old selections they never released. Too cold tender, among other things. The seedless muscat NY 65.483.2 has good muscat flavor, but the berries are too small and the clusters are so compact that any attempt to increase the berry size leads to cracking and splitting of the fruit.
Rombough Seedless was released more or less by accident, but I don't mind as the patent fees would have been more than it might earn anyway.

-Lon Rombough
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On Sep 3, 2009, at 8:24 PM, Naomi Counides wrote:




<x-tad-bigger>Today was the Fruit Field day at the Parma extension of the U of Idaho.  The facility and the program is under considerable threat of being shut down because U of I has to cut 3.2 million from their budget and cutting Parma would “save $600,000.   This is a place with over 20 years working on this site.  The irrigation system is amazing.. and the trees and vines on it even more so.</x-tad-bigger>

<x-tad-bigger>There was some major discussion of table grapes in Idaho.  This is really a coming thing seemingly.  We have hot days and cool nights.  It is basically dry here.  Nice for raising grapes.  And I tasted a lot of them.  Unfortunately my notes stink. Now since I am not a commercial grower I tasted looking for interesting flavor.. not just sugar water balls.  These are names I wrote down so I think that means I liked them though I no longer have any detail on flavor or texture.  Alborz (crunchy) This is one I already have planted thanks to Ron Mann who is in cahoots with Parma and is a friend who lives up the road and has pimped fruit trees and now grapes to me for years. Anahita also called Ralli is another I tasted and like and I already have planted. Ron Mann’s grape Sweet Shelly (NY47616), named after his wife was there and quite nice. Looked like a blueberry and maybe tasted a bit like one.  Here it can be useful to have a grape that tastes like a blueberry.  We have alkali soil and blueberries are tricky to grow but grapes are easy.  I saw a green seedless by Ron L there.  I really liked NY 65.0479.1.  I would like to know more about that one and I would like to plant it. I seem to have missed Ny65.483.2 but that one sounds very interesting also.  I like Muscat flavor.  And yes those are all seedless because my family is fussy about seeds and sometimes I make raisins.</x-tad-bigger>

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<x-tad-bigger>By the time I got to the tables of peaches there was not much left to taste and I was getting pretty full even going one grape at a time.  There were LOTS!!!  And there were plums, pluots, nectarines, apples Mulberries.  Very interesting presentation on size and soluables and how to do what by use of water and nutrients to apples.  BTW this irrigation system uses 60% less water than the sprinkler emitters.  It is 4 inches underground 1 foot either side of the tree or vine.  They do a really interesting thing watering one side of the apple tree fully for 2 weeks and starving the other side then alternating to increase sugars.</x-tad-bigger>

<x-tad-bigger>Saw figs, jujube, mulberry, Asian persimmon, Asian pears, quince, walnuts and almonds.  Oh and the way they are now growing the grapes is vey neat and shady to walk under.  I forget which varieties but they had huge bunches of grapes.  They showed a 9 pounder but said they had one that went 11 pounds.  Gorgeous.</x-tad-bigger>

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