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[Caren Kirk <quirky@videotron.ca>]

Hi Ernest,

I'm right on the border of Ag Can Zone 5 and 4b (USDA Zone 4 and 3 I 
believe), so most of the time I tend to play it safe and tick with Ag Can 
Z4b although I am known to experiment!

It 's only a sucker about a foot or so high.  At what point do you think it 
would be big enough to graft on to?  I have no experience with grafting by 
the way (obviously!).

I guess apples are less likely to sucker so I'm not sure I would be so lucky 
with my dead Golden Russet? Is there any way to encourage the rootstock to 
flourish?

Caren.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ernest Plutko" <ernestplutko@wiktel.com>
To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] How to revive my apple tree (if possible)


> Caren:  Don't dig up rootstock.  It is still alive.  Graft on it.
> What zone are you in?  You could have a choice of what kind of peach
> to graft depending on your zone.
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: quirky@videotron.ca
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] How to revive my apple tree (if possible)
> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:50:33 -0400
>
> > Ernest, of course you're so right, I lost my head with the excitement
> >
> > thinking that SOMETHING was actually growing and maybe salvageable.
> >
> > Guess I just have to dig the whole thing up and think about whether
> > I'm
> > brave enough to try something else there.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Caren.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ernest Plutko" <ernestplutko@wiktel.com>
> > To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] How to revive my apple tree (if possible)
> >
> >
> > > A sucker from the ground is coming from the rootstock and will not
> > be
> > > a Reliance peach.
> > > ---- Original Message ----
> > > From: quirky@videotron.ca
> > > To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] How to revive my apple tree (if possible)
> > > Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:34:07 -0400
> > >
> > > > Quick update for anyone interested: I went to check out the
> > Reliance
> > > > again yesterday and saw that it has a sucker.  This has given me
> > hope
> > > > that we can cut away the dead tree and maybe see if the sucker will
> > > > replace it - IF it survives the next winter.
> > > >
> > > > There may be hope yet!
> > > >
> > > > Caren.
> > > > Quebec
> > > >  ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >  From: Caren Kirk
> > > >  To: North American Fruit Explorers
> > > >  Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:21 AM
> > > >  Subject: Re: [NAFEX] How to revive my apple tree (if possible)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Hi Steve and Peter,
> > > >
> > > >  Thanks for asking, unfortunately my Golden Russet and my Reliance
> > > > have showed no signs of revival. In fact the Golden Russet has just
> > > > got drier and drier. We noticed a strange phenomenon on the
> > Reliance
> > > > trunk; it seems to have little dots of orange. Being a complete
> > > > novice, I don't have any experiences with tree diseases.  Could
> > this
> > > > be a form of rust, maybe CAR?  I didn't think peaches could get it,
> > > > but hey, what do I know! I guess whatever it is we should cut it
> > down
> > > > right away to be sure.
> > > >
> > > >  I am reallly not having a good year fruit wise. Between losing
> > > > these 2 and my cherries being infested with ants, it's a bit of a
> > > > sucky year.
> > > >
> > > >  Caren
> > > >  Depressed in Quebec
> > > >    ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >    From: Drevniok
> > > >    To: North American Fruit Explorers
> > > >    Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:37 AM
> > > >    Subject: Re: [NAFEX] How to revive my apple tree (if possible)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >              Hi All,
> > > >
> > > >                       re: Reliance Peach
> > > >
> > > >                       I thought my Reliance was a goner also. I
> > cut
> > > > it down this spring from a height of about 8 feet to a height of
> > > > about 18-22 inches which included one branch
> > > >        on two sides. Both these branches had signs of viable buds
> > > > but I was not too optimistic since all other buds were not budding
> > > > and looked definitely dead.
> > > >        However, the tree has rebounded wonderfully with much new
> > > > growth.
> > > >
> > > >                    Peter Drevniok, Gatineau, Quebec zone 4/5
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    Steve wrote:
> > > > Caren,
> > > > It's been 5 or 6 weeks since your wrote the post below. Did your
> > > > apple
> > > > tree ever grow leaves?
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Caren Kirk wrote:
> > > >  In a previous post I lamented at the state of my golden russet
> > > > apple and
> > > > reliance peach that I planted last year that did not leaf out.
> > Well,
> > > > I
> > > > think the peach has really had it, seems brittle and can't find any
> > > > green under the bark.  Probably should just get the inevitable over
> > > > and
> > > > done with and remove it and plant something else. RIP.
> > > >
> > > > However the apple, while having no leaves is still supple and if
> > you
> > > > scratch away the bark, it's green underneath.  Does this mean that
> > > > there
> > > > is still hope?  If so what can I do to regenerate it?
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions welcome.
> > > >
> > > > Caren
> > > > Slightly depressed in Quebec
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