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- From: "Mark Angermayer" <hangermayer@isp.com>
- To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic
- Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:35:43 -0500
Rivka wrote:
"Rotenone has not been acceptable for use in organic production since the
Federal standards went into effect, and was controversial within the organic
community for some time before that. Nicotine has not been acceptable for use in
organic production for much longer -- I have never seen a published organic
standard that did not prohibit nicotine (and arsenic, before somebody brings
that up) and I have been farming organically since the 1970's. Pyrethrum is a
restricted material for organic production; among the things the certifier would
be looking at in restricted material use is whether the specific use by that
grower is likely to cause problems for non-target organisms. (Natural pyrethrum
is commonly used in flea products meant for cats. Overdose can indeed cause
problems; but what you're really supposed to avoid entirely for cats is
synthetic permethrins, which are forbidden for organic production.)
I wish that people who are criticizing organic would read current standards first. It is no more reasonable to criticize organic production based on recommends from 1950's publications than it is to criticize conventional as if conventional growers had never figured out that crop rotation is a good idea after all." Rivka,
You tend to view the word "organic" in a very legal
definition. But as you are aware, "organic" means a lot of different
things to a lot of different people. As you know, to a chemist, "organic"
means carbon based chemistry. An OMRI definition is something quite
different. But to most people, most consumers, natural = organic.
Therefore, to most people Rotenone would be "organic" in their mind.
I've read lot's of comments on the Internet than indicates a lot of folks think
this way. I think Dennis was referring to the most common vernacular
definition, not a specific legal definition that would require OMRI
certification. In support of this, I might add that a lot of websites
advertise Rotenone as "organic".
Mark
KS
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Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED],
ADAMSON, Karl, 06/15/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED],
dmnorton, 06/16/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic,
Road's End Farm, 06/16/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic, dmnorton, 06/16/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic, Mark Angermayer, 06/16/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic, Stephen Sadler, 06/16/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED], Kevin Moore, 06/16/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic,
Kieran &/or Donna, 06/17/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic, mIEKAL aND, 06/18/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic,
Road's End Farm, 06/16/2009
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED],
Melissa Kacalanos, 06/16/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED],
Kevin Moore, 06/18/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] Bt toxin, Kieran &/or Donna, 06/18/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED],
Kevin Moore, 06/18/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED],
dmnorton, 06/16/2009
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