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  • From: "Ernest Plutko" <ernestplutko@wiktel.com>
  • To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Squirrel control with Peanut Butter
  • Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:17:17 -0500

Use in stew. Or skin and dismember, boil in water until tender,
bread and fry. Good.

---- Original Message ----
From: lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Squirrel control with Peanut Butter
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:11:13 -0500

>I'm in full agreement with Kevin on this matter.
>Free-range squirrel is tasty and healthful! And especially
>pleasurable when you know the rascals were going to be raiding your
>orchard.
>Here's a TAMU site with some nice squirrel recipes(as well as some
>for acorn preparation, etc.)
>http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/plantanswers/recipes/squirrel.html
>
>Lucky
>
>At 09:51 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote:
>>No squirrels don't share. If you plant enough to feed both the local
>
>>population and yourself, the squirrel population will explode and
>>you'll be faced with an even larger population. I still maintain the
>
>>best squirrel control is to buy a large stew pot and keep it filled.
>
>>They eat your food. you might as well benifit from it one way or
>another.
>>
>>
>>From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
>>To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:44:21 AM
>>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Squirrel control with Peanut Butter
>>
>>Incorrect recipe. No water - that would activate the PoP and defeat
>>the purpose.
>>Just purchase some cheap peanut butter and mix in PoP until you get
>>it to a 'stiff dough' consistency. Fashion into little peanut-sized
>>bonbons and distribute them to spots where the bushy-tailed tree
>>rats(or the naked-tailed types) can access them. I always caution
>>folks to make certain that they're not accessible to pets or small
>>children, though I have doubts about them causing any problems in
>>dogs or humans, which do have the capability of vomiting.
>>I've used them with success when squirrels were raiding my nursery
>>beds/pots, digging up seednuts or even 1-2 yr-old seedlings to get
>at
>>the remaining acorn/pecan/hickory nut. Only saw one dead squirrel,
>>but the bonbons disappeared, depredation ceased immediately - and I
>>didn't see any active squirrels for a long time.
>>
>>The NAFEX member and long-time nutgrower who initially tipped me off
>>to PB/PoP bonbons suggested that the PoP 'turned to concrete' in the
>>squirrels' GI tract. After discussions with our toxicologist, I
>>don't think that is the case - more likely they're succumbing to
>>derangement of their plasma Calcium:Phosphorus ratio - causing
>>convulsions or disruption of normal cardiac function, or heat/gas(or
>>both) are produced when the PoP encounters gastric acids, resulting
>>in gastric rupture, shock and death.
>>One positive aspect to the PB/PoP bonbons is that there should be no
>>worry about 'secondary poisoning' of predators/scavengers which
>might
>>capture affected squirrels or find and eat those that have died as a
>>result of consuming PB/PoP bonbons. Secondary poisoning of
>>non-target predators/scavengers is a significant concern when
>dealing
>>with the anticoagulant-type rodent baits(warfarin, diphacinone,
>>brodifacoum, etc.)
>>
>>The soft-hearted bunny-hugger types typically rail against the
>>thought of these vermin 'suffering', but they also protest drowning
>>those captured in live traps. The typical argument is to 'plant
>>enough to share' or live-trap and relocate the pests.
>>Well, squirrels don't share - they'll strip an entire tree of unripe
>>peaches, etc., taking one bite, and moving on to the next.
>>Wildlife biologists strongly recommend against relocation of most
>>wildlife species - particulary those that are not endangered(like
>>squirrels, deer, raccoons, etc.) - by relocating problem animals,
>>you're potentially pushing the population at the release site over
>>the natural carrying capacity, possibly introducing new
>>diseases/parasites into the environment/population at the release
>>site, and the relocated animal is frequently at a disadvantage with
>>regard to competing for available food, nest sites, mates, etc., and
>>may die a much more protracted death due to disease/starvation than
>>the more rapid
>>
>>Lucky
>>
>>
>>At 09:23 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote:
>> >There was a message string a few years ago that someone suggested
>you
>> >try peanut butter with Plaster of Paris. Mix PofP with water to
>make
>> >the balls, then cover with Peanut butter. When the rodents eat
>the
>> >PofP, according to one source, they die from an extreme overdose
>of
>> >calcium ions which causes heart failure. Walmart and Home Depot
>can
>> >supply you the PofP.
>> >
>> >Search google for more info.
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From:
>>
><mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org>nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.o
>rg
>> >[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Ernest
>Plutko
>> >Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:52 AM
>> >To: <mailto:nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>> >Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Squirrel control with tangletrap (was fox
>urine)
>> >
>> >Peanut butter is great squirrel bait.
>> >
>> >---- Original Message ----
>> >From: <mailto:scott@cs.jhu.edu>scott@cs.jhu.edu
>> >To: <mailto:nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>> >Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Squirrel control with tangletrap (was fox
>urine)
>> >Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:37:29 -0400
>> >
>> > >Alan, I was thinking of trying tangletrap this year and noticed
>your
>> > >
>> > >mention of it. My peach trees are in a location where I can't
>> > >reliably shoot the squirrels and they have gotten most of my
>peaches
>> > >
>> > >for the last several years (note that I am clearing out
>squirrels
>> > >year-
>> > >round with my pellet gun, and I have only seen one (now-dead)
>> > >squirrel
>> > >in the last two weeks in my yard, but surely a bunch will
>descend
>> > >once
>> > >the peaches start to ripen). If the tangletrap even slowed them
>down
>> > >
>> > >a bit I would call that a victory. My peach trees are all
>closely-
>> > >planted and about 8' tall; my plan was to put the tangletrap on
>the
>> > >main trunks of all of the trees. Good plan?
>> > >
>> > >I have a whole pile of squirrel traps (three different brands,
>Kania,
>> > >
>> > >tube, and Havahart) and I have not been able to reliably get the
>> > >squirrels in the traps as opposed to munching on the peaches. I
>even
>> > >
>> > >bought some "professional" squirrel bait to try but they still
>went
>> > >after the peaches instead.
>> > >
>> > >Scott
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Alan Haigh writes:
>> > >> Fox urine is one of many squirrel repellents I've wasted money
>on.
>> > >
>> > >> I found
>> > >> it rather repulsive but my squirrels aren't so squeamish.
>They
>> > >like
>> > >> their
>> > >> green peaches and pears spicy too, so you can forget pepper.
>I've
>> > >
>> > >> found
>> > >> them quite repelled by buck-shot and moderately repelled by
>tangle
>> > >
>> > >> trap and
>> > >> netting, but not reliably so.
>> >
>> >
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