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  • From: "Brady, Kathy" <BradyK@health.missouri.edu>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] trailing black raspberry
  • Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:02:59 -0500

I would be very interested in what your description of a trailing black
raspberry is.. I have an old variety that the cane drops over , touches the
ground ,and roots from the top.. I got it from my Husband's Grandmother's
garden years ago..

Thanks,
Kathy

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From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org on behalf of John S
Sent: Wed 4/15/2009 9:35 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] trailing black raspberry


Ernst, I went on the Internet in response to your post to see what I could
find about so called "trailing" raspberries. What I found did not convince
me - I think mostly it was artistic, descriptive license to sell a plant or a
mis-use of the term "trailing".. For example, I found a Park's description
of Cumberland as "trailing". Having grown Cumberland, I do not consider it
to be appropriately described as trailing.

For now, I'll believe a trailing black raspberry when I actually see it
myself. Over 50 years of interest in black raspberries and I haven't run
into a trailing one yet. However, like you, I have run into many people
that don't know the difference between a blackberry, a black raspberry and a
berry that is black. I'll allow for the possibility, but want to see better
evidence myself.

John



--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Ernest Plutko <ernestplutko@wiktel.com> wrote:



From: Ernest Plutko <ernestplutko@wiktel.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] trailing black raspberry
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 9:56 PM


Sorry, I am talking in the post about black raspberries. People
around here call all dark colored berries blackberries and I picked
up the habit. No the canes I have are real trailing black
raspberries. An acquaintance gave me three canes last spring which
are vigorous growers and very hardy. I have a picture of some
blossoms I can send you. These are mystery black raspberries which
supposedly came from Canada some time ago. I did read on internet
that there are trailing back raspberries. I showed some locals my
black currents and they called them blackberries. All the black
raspberries I have seen previously were erect.

---- Original Message ----
From: swim_at_svc@yahoo.com
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] trailing black raspberry
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:17:54 -0700 (PDT)

>Ernst, The post from you that I am responding to (below)seems to use
>"blackberry" and "black raspberry" interchangeably. Please clarify.
>I am familiar with trailing blackberries, but not trailing black
>raspberries.
>
>Thanks
>John
>
>
>
>--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Ernest Plutko <ernestplutko@wiktel.com> wrote:
>
>From: Ernest Plutko <ernestplutko@wiktel.com>
>Subject: [NAFEX] trailing black raspberry
>To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 11:54 AM
>
>Snow is melting rapidly the last three days. Snow melted away from
>the trailing black raspberries I got last spring. They are a mystery
>variety. I had some berries last summer and they tasty. They did
>easily live through the winter except the voles chewed on them. I put
>mouse poison next to them last fall.. Too many voles. I'll put out
>traps for them today and try to wipe them out. I'm disappointed but
>the raspberries should make it and put up more canes. Next fall I'll
>cover them with wire mesh. I have six varieties of black raspberries
>now growing under lights. By varieties I mean wild blackberries from
>six states. I'm looking for varieties that will grow here.
>Commercial varieties are not hardy enough but wild varieties have a
>better chance since I know the hardiness of commercial varieties. It
>is possible to discover a more hardy black raspberry from wild
>populations.
>
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