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["Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>]

You could always go to the HOS scion exchange in Oregon.
http://www.homeorchardsociety.org/
-Lon Rombough
NEW grape pruning video: http://www.bunchgrapes.com/dvd.html View a short, low resolution clip here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q58zFY0B1M
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at http://www.bunchgrapes.com  Winner of the Garden Writers Association "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003. 
For all other things grape,   http://www.vitisearch.com
A video about The Grape Grower : http://cookingupastory.com/index.php/2008/04/18/the-grape-grower/
On Feb 24, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Justin West wrote:

<x-tad-bigger> Still wondering if anyone can point me in a direction for aquiring (buying or trading) some graft wood for disease resistant varieties of pear, asian pear, plum, apricot, and-or peach.  I realize this is a rather general question but any ideas would be appreciated. </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Justin</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> 1. Re: Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio (Lucky Pittman)</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> 2. Re: I need a fertilizer source (dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com)</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> 3. Re: Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio (Lon J. Rombough)</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> 4. Re: Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> (Hilborn.E@epamail.epa.gov)</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> 5. Re: climate zones (Bob Randall)</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:28:39 -0600</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu></x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org></x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Anthony,</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> The presence of the large thorns makes me suspect that what you </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> thought was the graft union is probably not, and that the new shoots </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> are from the rootstock and not from the grafted variety.</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:01:40 -0600</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> From: <dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com></x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need a fertilizer source</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org></x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> We had Ag Resources come in about 2 years ago and they did additional soil </x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> we opted to stay with WB for our orchard.</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> To: "NAFEX" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org></x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:47 AM</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need a fertilizer source</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:18:48 -0800</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com></x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org></x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Pear and apple seedlings go through a "juvenile" phase before they </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> start bearing in which they frequently have thorns and may also have </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> leaves with lobes rather than entire leaves. As the tree matures, the </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> wood becomes thorn-free and trees grafted from the mature wood are </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> usually free of thorns. However, grafting wood taken from areas of the </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> tree close to the "juvenile" part may produce thorns, especially on </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> vigorous new shoots. Your tree may have been grafted from such wood </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> and the shock of the deer damage made the new shoots come out with </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> thorns. Such juvenile shoots will grow out of the thorns, but they </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> will also take longer t o come back to bearing than thornless shoots. </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> Meanwhile, the thorns give them some deer protection.</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> -Lon Rombough</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> NEW grape pruning video: http://www.bunchgrapes.com/dvd.html View a </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> short, low resolution clip here: </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q58zFY0B1M</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden Writers Association</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> For all other things grape, http://www.vitisearch.com</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> A video about The Grape Grower : </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> http://cookingupastory.com/index.php/2008/04/18/the-grape-grower/</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> On Feb 24, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Anthony Curcio wrote:</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Last year without any warning Crazed Deer attacked a small planting of </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> our pampered 2 yo Asian pears. Emotionally beaten I did not return to </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> the site of the raid until recently. Now one tree, a Hosui, which had</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> its trunk snapped in two has multiple new shoots rising from just above </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> the graft. Although the shoots are above the graft the new growth has </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> what appears to be large thorns. I would like to know if I should </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> choose one new shoot and cut the rest of the tree back or cut the new </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> growth off and see if the old trunk will emerge ? I have taken a couple </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> of pictures but didn?t know if they would work with this reply. I could </x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Thank you, Anthony z4b</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> "Pear and apple seedlings go through a "juvenile" phase before they</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> start bearing in which they frequently have thorns and may also have</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Lon, that is fascinating! Do you know if pomegranates may act</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> similarly? My "Favorite" came back from a freeze event from the roots</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> but now suckers terribly and has thorns.</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:37:56 -0600</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> From: Bob Randall <YearRoundGardening@comcast.net></x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] climate zones</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org></x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> Message-ID: <1D9D6031-AA0F-4532-94A5-81F8FCD4853E@comcast.net></x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Some years ago while trying to advise gardeners and farmers all over </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> the Houston area, I became aware of just how bad the existing USDA </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> zones were--both out of date and not very helpful, and insensitive to </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> local differences (the area has places where there is one frost every </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> other year and others where there are 25-40 every winter). I started </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> doing web based research on historical weather in the Houston </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> Galveston College Station Metro Region. What I found was that even </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> the weather data is not collected as if people used it for plants.</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> For example, if you wanted to know how many frosts to expect in a </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> winter--suppose you want to grow a lemon or protect your peppers for </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> example--you can't find this out easily since the weather data is </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> collected and reported by calendar year. It is actually necessary to </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> manually count up all fall winter and spring dates for the last part </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> of one year and second part of another to get a total, and then do it </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> for that location for the last ten or 20 years</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> As anyone with math training knows, averages (mean or median??) tell </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> you very little about the extremes or their frequency, and plants care </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> mostly about that. So I decided to report frequencies, rather than </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> averages</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> So what I did was a lot of mind numbing counting on NOAA web sites.</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> But the way of reporting is much more useful if you grow fruits or </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> vegetables.</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> See http://www.urbanharvest.org/advice/basics/weather_data.html</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> This is for our area, but there is no reason why similar effort </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> wouldn't work anywhere.</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Bob Randall</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Michele Stanton wrote:</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> > The USDA climate zones are not meant as an all-encompassing guide to </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > what grows where. They are based on average winter minimum </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > temperatures, and nothing more. Their main advantage is that they </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > are so widely used. You can find similar maps for almost any </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > country or area in the world now. Read more at: http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/index.html</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> > Those of you West of the Rockies should look at the Sunset climate </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > zones. They're a much more accurate picture of climates. I </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > introduce students to Sunset's national maps even though I live in </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > the Midwest. I wish they were more widely used. They're based on a </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > larger number of factors, such as minimum and maximum temperatures,</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > rainfall amount and timing, humidity, and length of the growing </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > season. Check them out at: http://www.sunset.com/garden/climate-zones/</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> > Some nurseries use a combination of USDA zones and AHS heat zones, </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > which is at least a little more helpful. If you haven't used the </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > AHS heat zones, you can obtain info for your area by entering your </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> > zip code.</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> > http://www.ahs.org/publications/heat_zone_map.htm</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> > Michele in SW Ohio</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> From: "nuttrees" <nuttrees@prtcnet.org></x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> Subject: [NAFEX] Kentucky NAFEXers</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Lucky thank you</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Yes we are open but in a Research and development mode mostly. I do</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> have plants available for pick up and we are shipping this coming spring</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> season but we are still working on getting it together for fall 2009. I</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> was in Iraq for almost 1 year so I have needed a lot of catching up to do I</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> did not get out of the army till 1 September 06. I was injured and have</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> required several surgeries to fix a few things but I am working on it and</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> will open up fully in the near future. </x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> I have found that I have to deal with Iraq while it is still fresh in my</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> mind and I'm not finding it easy to cope with some things in day to day</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> life, I am taking it a lot easier these days the nursery will come back</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> some day soon but I have to come back first.</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> I have not up dated the web site but plan to in the near future. I will</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> supply my list of scion wood and plant material and the list of cultivars</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> available.</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> I do have some plant material available Kaki & Virginiana persimmons,</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> Jujube and Asian pears and some other plant material. The most interesting</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> thing I have to release is Rojo Brillante Kaki from Spain just out of the</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>> post entry Quarantine this past fall very large fruit and very firm when</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Please contact me off list. </x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> Thank you</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> 316 KY HWY 2004</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>> McKee, KY 40447</x-tad-bigger>
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