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- From: Justin West <chuckjwest@hotmail.com>
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- Subject: [NAFEX] scions
- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:27:30 +0000
Still wondering if anyone can point me in a direction for aquiring (buying or trading) some graft wood for disease resistant varieties of pear, asian pear, plum, apricot, and-or peach. I realize this is a rather general question but any ideas would be appreciated. Justin New Jersey "zone 6" more like 7 > From: nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: nafex Digest, Vol 73, Issue 85 > To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:25:21 -0500 > > Send nafex mailing list submissions to > nafex@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nafex-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio (Lucky Pittman) > 2. Re: I need a fertilizer source (dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com) > 3. Re: Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio (Lon J. Rombough) > 4. Re: Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio > (Hilborn.E@epamail.epa.gov) > 5. Re: climate zones (Bob Randall) > 6. Kentucky NAFEXers (nuttrees) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:28:39 -0600 > From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio > To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <20090224182845.702484C020@lists.ibiblio.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Anthony, > The presence of the large thorns makes me suspect that what you > thought was the graft union is probably not, and that the new shoots > are from the rootstock and not from the grafted variety. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:01:40 -0600 > From: <dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need a fertilizer source > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <D03ADF14D6244F4FB4B02EB198719194@DELLXPS630> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > Jim, > > We had Ag Resources come in about 2 years ago and they did additional soil > tests for us and gave us some recommendations for growing our giant > pumpkins. I totally forgot about them! They did a good service for us and > spent a lot of time with us. They do offer the same services as > Wilbur-Ellis and since we have done business with WB for over 15 years now, > we opted to stay with WB for our orchard. > > Dennis Norton > Royal Oak Farm Orchard > Office (815) 648-4467 > Mobile (815) 228-2174 > Fax (609) 228-2174 > http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com > http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com > http://www.revivalhymn.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth@tds.net> > To: "NAFEX" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> > Cc: "Barb Wagner" <barbw@uslink.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:47 AM > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need a fertilizer source > > > > Just yesterday I received a catalog from Ag Resource, Inc. (Detroit > > Lakes, MN / 1-800-288-6650) that includes AGRO-K products. AGRO-K sells > > OMRI fertilizers (that's Organic Materials Review Institute) for foliar > > spraying. The list includes micronutrients and could be used for what I > > need. Minimum quantity is one gallon, in most cases, and mostly under > > $20.00 > > > > Jim Fruth > > Brambleberry Farm > > Pequot Lakes, MN 56472 > > For jams, jellies, syrups and more: > > www.jellygal.com > > 1-877-265-6856 (Toll Free) > > 1-218-831-7018 (My Cell) > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:18:48 -0800 > From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio > To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <b58e3e8f83c1831fba06906373b72669@hevanet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Pear and apple seedlings go through a "juvenile" phase before they > start bearing in which they frequently have thorns and may also have > leaves with lobes rather than entire leaves. As the tree matures, the > wood becomes thorn-free and trees grafted from the mature wood are > usually free of thorns. However, grafting wood taken from areas of the > tree close to the "juvenile" part may produce thorns, especially on > vigorous new shoots. Your tree may have been grafted from such wood > and the shock of the deer damage made the new shoots come out with > thorns. Such juvenile shoots will grow out of the thorns, but they > will also take longer t o come back to bearing than thornless shoots. > Meanwhile, the thorns give them some deer protection. > -Lon Rombough > NEW grape pruning video: http://www.bunchgrapes.com/dvd.html View a > short, low resolution clip here: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q58zFY0B1M > Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at > http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden Writers Association > "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003. > For all other things grape, http://www.vitisearch.com > A video about The Grape Grower : > http://cookingupastory.com/index.php/2008/04/18/the-grape-grower/ > On Feb 24, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Anthony Curcio wrote: > > Last year without any warning Crazed Deer attacked a small planting of > our pampered 2 yo Asian pears. Emotionally beaten I did not return to > the site of the raid until recently. Now one tree, a Hosui, which had > its trunk snapped in two has multiple new shoots rising from just above > the graft. Although the shoots are above the graft the new growth has > what appears to be large thorns. I would like to know if I should > choose one new shoot and cut the rest of the tree back or cut the new > growth off and see if the old trunk will emerge ? I have taken a couple > of pictures but didn?t know if they would work with this reply. I could > send off line. > Thank you, Anthony z4b > ? > Anthony P. Curcio > CEO > VasSol, Inc. > 833 W. Jackson 8flr. > Chicago, IL 60607 > Phone- 312-601-4431 > Fax - 312-601-4451 > <unknown.jpg>? > <image002.jpg><image001.jpg>____________________________________________ > ___ > nafex mailing list > nafex@lists.ibiblio.org > > Reproduction of list messages or archives is not allowed. > This includes distribution on other email lists or reproduction on web > sites. > Permission to reproduce is NEVER granted, so don't claim you have > permission! > > **YOU MUST BE SUBSCRIBED TO POST!** > Posts from email addresses that are not subscribed are discarded. > No exceptions. > ---- > To subscribe or unsubscribe, go to the bottom of this page (also can be > used to change other email options): > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > > File attachments are NOT stripped by this list. > TAKE STEPS TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM COMPUTER VIRUSES! > Please do not send binary files. > Use plain text ONLY in emails! > > NAFEX web site: http://www.nafex.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: text/enriched > Size: 4015 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/private/nafex/attachments/20090224/3f5a8bcf/attachment-0001.bin > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:27:34 -0500 > From: Hilborn.E@epamail.epa.gov > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Asian Pear / Deer Attacked - Anthony Curcio > To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: > <OF098F997C.D07A7228-ON85257567.00702BAB-85257567.007150F4@epamail.epa.gov> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > "Pear and apple seedlings go through a "juvenile" phase before they > start bearing in which they frequently have thorns and may also have > leaves with lobes rather than entire leaves. " > > Lon, that is fascinating! Do you know if pomegranates may act > similarly? My "Favorite" came back from a freeze event from the roots > but now suckers terribly and has thorns. > > Betsy Hilborn > 7a NC > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:37:56 -0600 > From: Bob Randall <YearRoundGardening@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] climate zones > To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <1D9D6031-AA0F-4532-94A5-81F8FCD4853E@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Some years ago while trying to advise gardeners and farmers all over > the Houston area, I became aware of just how bad the existing USDA > zones were--both out of date and not very helpful, and insensitive to > local differences (the area has places where there is one frost every > other year and others where there are 25-40 every winter). I started > doing web based research on historical weather in the Houston > Galveston College Station Metro Region. What I found was that even > the weather data is not collected as if people used it for plants. > > For example, if you wanted to know how many frosts to expect in a > winter--suppose you want to grow a lemon or protect your peppers for > example--you can't find this out easily since the weather data is > collected and reported by calendar year. It is actually necessary to > manually count up all fall winter and spring dates for the last part > of one year and second part of another to get a total, and then do it > for that location for the last ten or 20 years > > As anyone with math training knows, averages (mean or median??) tell > you very little about the extremes or their frequency, and plants care > mostly about that. So I decided to report frequencies, rather than > averages > > So what I did was a lot of mind numbing counting on NOAA web sites. > But the way of reporting is much more useful if you grow fruits or > vegetables. > > See http://www.urbanharvest.org/advice/basics/weather_data.html > > This is for our area, but there is no reason why similar effort > wouldn't work anywhere. > > Bob Randall > On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Michele Stanton wrote: > > > The USDA climate zones are not meant as an all-encompassing guide to > > what grows where. They are based on average winter minimum > > temperatures, and nothing more. Their main advantage is that they > > are so widely used. You can find similar maps for almost any > > country or area in the world now. Read more at: http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/index.html > > > > Those of you West of the Rockies should look at the Sunset climate > > zones. They're a much more accurate picture of climates. I > > introduce students to Sunset's national maps even though I live in > > the Midwest. I wish they were more widely used. They're based on a > > larger number of factors, such as minimum and maximum temperatures, > > rainfall amount and timing, humidity, and length of the growing > > season. Check them out at: http://www.sunset.com/garden/climate-zones/ > > > > Some nurseries use a combination of USDA zones and AHS heat zones, > > which is at least a little more helpful. If you haven't used the > > AHS heat zones, you can obtain info for your area by entering your > > zip code. > > > > http://www.ahs.org/publications/heat_zone_map.htm > > > > Michele in SW Ohio > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nafex mailing list > > nafex@lists.ibiblio.org > > > > Reproduction of list messages or archives is not allowed. > > This includes distribution on other email lists or reproduction on > > web sites. > > Permission to reproduce is NEVER granted, so don't claim you have > > permission! > > > > **YOU MUST BE SUBSCRIBED TO POST!** > > Posts from email addresses that are not subscribed are discarded. > > No exceptions. > > ---- > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, go to the bottom of this page (also can > > be used to change other email options): > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > > > > File attachments are NOT stripped by this list. > > TAKE STEPS TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM COMPUTER VIRUSES! > > Please do not send binary files. > > Use plain text ONLY in emails! > > > > NAFEX web site: http://www.nafex.org/ > > "Share What You Grow and What You Know!" > > Bob Randall, Ph.D. > YearRoundGardening@comcast.net > 713-661-9737 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/private/nafex/attachments/20090224/b8438da4/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:23:05 -0500 > From: "nuttrees" <nuttrees@prtcnet.org> > Subject: [NAFEX] Kentucky NAFEXers > To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <003401c996d6$d86b2cc0$9616b045@cliffengland> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Lucky thank you > > Yes we are open but in a Research and development mode mostly. I do > have plants available for pick up and we are shipping this coming spring > season but we are still working on getting it together for fall 2009. I > was in Iraq for almost 1 year so I have needed a lot of catching up to do I > did not get out of the army till 1 September 06. I was injured and have > required several surgeries to fix a few things but I am working on it and > will open up fully in the near future. > > > > I have found that I have to deal with Iraq while it is still fresh in my > mind and I'm not finding it easy to cope with some things in day to day > life, I am taking it a lot easier these days the nursery will come back > some day soon but I have to come back first. > > > > I have not up dated the web site but plan to in the near future. I will > supply my list of scion wood and plant material and the list of cultivars > available. > > > > I do have some plant material available Kaki & Virginiana persimmons, > Jujube and Asian pears and some other plant material. The most interesting > thing I have to release is Rojo Brillante Kaki from Spain just out of the > post entry Quarantine this past fall very large fruit and very firm when > ripe > > Please contact me off list. > > > > Thank you > > Clifford England > > 316 KY HWY 2004 > > McKee, KY 40447 > > www.nuttrees.net <http://www.nuttrees.net/> > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/nafex/attachments/20090224/ed8bfb71/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex@lists.ibiblio.org > > Reproduction of list messages or archives is not allowed. > This includes distribution on other email lists or reproduction on web sites. > Permission to reproduce is NEVER granted, so don't claim you have permission! > > **YOU MUST BE SUBSCRIBED TO POST!** > Posts from email addresses that are not subscribed are discarded. > No exceptions. > ---- > To subscribe or unsubscribe, go to the bottom of this page (also can be used to change other email options): > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > > File attachments are NOT stripped by this list. > TAKE STEPS TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM COMPUTER VIRUSES! > Please do not send binary files. > Use plain text ONLY in emails! > > NAFEX web site: http://www.nafex.org/ > > > End of nafex Digest, Vol 73, Issue 85 > ************************************* Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. 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[NAFEX] scions,
Justin West, 02/24/2009
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