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  • From: John Bunker <john.p.bunker@gmail.com>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Egremont Russet
  • Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:01:01 -0500

I've had one branch on one tree for many years.  It was sent to me by a Nafexer 20+ years ago.  I assume it is correct.  It is relatively early ripening (late summer), does not keep and the fruit size is not large - "medium" at best.  I like the fruit however.  When dead on ripe, it's good for eating out of hand.  I'd be happy to send you scionwood in a couple of months.
Regards
John Bunker
Fedco
www.fedcoseeds.com 
PO Box 520
Waterville ME 04903
207-873-7333


On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Webmail wynne wrote:

regarding egremont russett
anyone with scions   comments   thanks wynne@jerzyboyz farm

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: nafex Digest, Vol 71, Issue 30 (Terry Bradshaw)
   2. Re: I need Aronia melanocarpa (mIEKAL aND)
   3. Re: I need Aronia melanocarpa (Ginda Fisher)
   4. Re: I need Aronia melanocarpa (Hal Love)
   5. smell of ginko fruits (Brungardt, Sam)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:31:03 -0500
From: Terry Bradshaw <terryb@lostmeadowvt.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 71, Issue 30
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I have St Ed's Russet, definitely my favorite.  My season here in
central VT is a tad too short for Golden or Roxbury.  Egremont will
likely be pulled.  No fruit yet (year 5 on M/9) and a really weird
growth habit to boot.

TB
I noticed that I have a couple of St. Edmonds Russets in my nursery which
is
a variety that receives glowing reviews in the few references I have on my
book shelf.  Is anyone out there growing this variety?  Comments welcome.




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:43:17 -0600
From: "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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I have both of those varieties, but not sure I could tell any
difference between them.  I made 5 gallons of wine this year from
them, haven't sampled yet, but I imagine the anthocyanins are off the
chart.  One of the best uses I find is to let them dry on the bushes
(they don't drop) & you have yourself aronia raisins, which are far
less astringent than the fresh fruit.  Work great in pilafs & such.

~mIEKAL


On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Lon J. Rombough <lonrom@hevanet.com> wrote:
Aronia isn't a fruit to eat fresh.  Even though it can develop high sugar
(I've measured 23 Brix and more on ones I've tested) you can't eat that
many
before the astringency makes your mouth feel dry.  The two main varieties
are Nero and Viking.  They top the list in productivity.  Hidden Springs
Nursery has them.
-Lon Rombough


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:09:24 -0500
From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
To: jas39a@earthlink.net, North American Fruit Explorers
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I've had 'naturally colored' products that include some aronia juice for
color.  As a rule of thumb, I prefer the flavor of chemical food coloring
agents.  (obviously, very little of a chemical food color is used, so it
adds little if any flavor.)
___
Ginda

...... Original Message .......
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:40:43 -0500 (GMT-05:00) jas39a@earthlink.net wrote:


The Aronia I've eaten tasted like damp cardboard.  I do not understand
their appeal.

Eddie Earles



-----Original Message-----
From: "Lon J. Rombough"
Sent: Dec 11, 2008 10:37 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa

Aronia isn't a fruit to eat fresh. Even though it can develop high
sugar (I've measured 23 Brix and more on ones I've tested) you can't
eat that many before the astringency makes your mouth feel dry. The
two main varieties are Nero and Viking. They top the list in
productivity. Hidden Springs Nursery has them.
-Lon Rombough
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On Dec 11, 2008, at 6:02 AM, Jim Fruth wrote:

   Please send me the name of a nursery that sells Aronia melanocarpa
(sp) that tastes good.

   I had some but they got uprooted when they were in the way but I
forgot where I bought them.  So I got a new batch from a Conservation
tree place but the fruit has almost no flavor and leaves a bad after
taste.  I need good tasting plants.  Thanks.

Jim Fruth
Brambleberry Farm
Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:18:52 -0600
From: "Hal Love" <lovehd@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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I read a paper a couple of years ago where some reseachers looked at the
genetics of Aronia. 'Viking' and 'Nero' were genetically identical to each
other, and produce seedlings that are also identical or nearly so
(apomixis?). These two clones (sports?) are tetraploid. Wild Aronia are both
diploid and tetraploid. The tets all seem to self-pollinate and produce
nearly identical seedlings, while the dips are out-crossers and produce
variable seedlings.

Hal


----- Original Message -----
From: "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa


I have both of those varieties, but not sure I could tell any
difference between them.  I made 5 gallons of wine this year from
them, haven't sampled yet, but I imagine the anthocyanins are off the
chart.  One of the best uses I find is to let them dry on the bushes
(they don't drop) & you have yourself aronia raisins, which are far
less astringent than the fresh fruit.  Work great in pilafs & such.

~mIEKAL


On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Lon J. Rombough <lonrom@hevanet.com>
wrote:
Aronia isn't a fruit to eat fresh.  Even though it can develop high
sugar
(I've measured 23 Brix and more on ones I've tested) you can't eat that
many
before the astringency makes your mouth feel dry.  The two main
varieties
are Nero and Viking.  They top the list in productivity.  Hidden Springs
Nursery has them.
-Lon Rombough
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:14:59 -0600
From: "Brungardt, Sam" <Sam.Brungardt@state.mn.us>
Subject: [NAFEX] smell of ginko fruits
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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What Do You Think Ginkgo Fruit Smells Like?
u_think_ginkgo_fruit_smel.php&ct=ga&cd=DEACeEXrlrw&usg=AFQjCNEgHwnK0ZNha
0ZLp0sUylg5avEjLA>
DCist.com - Washington,DC,USA
... that the answer to Wonkette's inquiry from earlier this week about
why downtown Washington "smells like dog-shit" right now is undoubtedly
ginkgo fruit. ...




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