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  • From: "Webmail wynne" <wynne@crcwnet.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 71, Issue 32
  • Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:52:31 -0800

regarding egremont russett
anyone with scions comments thanks wynne@jerzyboyz farm

On 12/11/08, nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org
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> 1. Re: nafex Digest, Vol 71, Issue 30 (Terry Bradshaw)
> 2. Re: I need Aronia melanocarpa (mIEKAL aND)
> 3. Re: I need Aronia melanocarpa (Ginda Fisher)
> 4. Re: I need Aronia melanocarpa (Hal Love)
> 5. smell of ginko fruits (Brungardt, Sam)
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> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:31:03 -0500
> From: Terry Bradshaw <terryb@lostmeadowvt.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 71, Issue 30
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> I have St Ed's Russet, definitely my favorite. My season here in
> central VT is a tad too short for Golden or Roxbury. Egremont will
> likely be pulled. No fruit yet (year 5 on M/9) and a really weird
> growth habit to boot.
>
> TB
>> I noticed that I have a couple of St. Edmonds Russets in my nursery which
>> is
>> a variety that receives glowing reviews in the few references I have on my
>> book shelf. Is anyone out there growing this variety? Comments welcome.
>>
>>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:43:17 -0600
> From: "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
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> I have both of those varieties, but not sure I could tell any
> difference between them. I made 5 gallons of wine this year from
> them, haven't sampled yet, but I imagine the anthocyanins are off the
> chart. One of the best uses I find is to let them dry on the bushes
> (they don't drop) & you have yourself aronia raisins, which are far
> less astringent than the fresh fruit. Work great in pilafs & such.
>
> ~mIEKAL
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Lon J. Rombough <lonrom@hevanet.com> wrote:
>> Aronia isn't a fruit to eat fresh. Even though it can develop high sugar
>> (I've measured 23 Brix and more on ones I've tested) you can't eat that
>> many
>> before the astringency makes your mouth feel dry. The two main varieties
>> are Nero and Viking. They top the list in productivity. Hidden Springs
>> Nursery has them.
>> -Lon Rombough
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> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:09:24 -0500
> From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
> To: jas39a@earthlink.net, North American Fruit Explorers
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> I've had 'naturally colored' products that include some aronia juice for
> color. As a rule of thumb, I prefer the flavor of chemical food coloring
> agents. (obviously, very little of a chemical food color is used, so it
> adds little if any flavor.)
> ___
> Ginda
>
> ...... Original Message .......
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:40:43 -0500 (GMT-05:00) jas39a@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>The Aronia I've eaten tasted like damp cardboard. I do not understand
> their appeal.
>>
>>Eddie Earles
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: "Lon J. Rombough"
>>Sent: Dec 11, 2008 10:37 AM
>>To: North American Fruit Explorers
>>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
>>
>>Aronia isn't a fruit to eat fresh. Even though it can develop high
>>sugar (I've measured 23 Brix and more on ones I've tested) you can't
>>eat that many before the astringency makes your mouth feel dry. The
>>two main varieties are Nero and Viking. They top the list in
>>productivity. Hidden Springs Nursery has them.
>>-Lon Rombough
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>>On Dec 11, 2008, at 6:02 AM, Jim Fruth wrote:
>>
>> Please send me the name of a nursery that sells Aronia melanocarpa
>>(sp) that tastes good.
>>
>> I had some but they got uprooted when they were in the way but I
>>forgot where I bought them. So I got a new batch from a Conservation
>>tree place but the fruit has almost no flavor and leaves a bad after
>>taste. I need good tasting plants. Thanks.
>>
>>Jim Fruth
>>Brambleberry Farm
>>Pequot Lakes, MN 56472
>>For jams, jellies & syrups and Christmas Gift Baskets:
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> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:18:52 -0600
> From: "Hal Love" <lovehd@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
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> I read a paper a couple of years ago where some reseachers looked at the
> genetics of Aronia. 'Viking' and 'Nero' were genetically identical to each
> other, and produce seedlings that are also identical or nearly so
> (apomixis?). These two clones (sports?) are tetraploid. Wild Aronia are both
> diploid and tetraploid. The tets all seem to self-pollinate and produce
> nearly identical seedlings, while the dips are out-crossers and produce
> variable seedlings.
>
> Hal
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
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>
>> I have both of those varieties, but not sure I could tell any
>> difference between them. I made 5 gallons of wine this year from
>> them, haven't sampled yet, but I imagine the anthocyanins are off the
>> chart. One of the best uses I find is to let them dry on the bushes
>> (they don't drop) & you have yourself aronia raisins, which are far
>> less astringent than the fresh fruit. Work great in pilafs & such.
>>
>> ~mIEKAL
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Lon J. Rombough <lonrom@hevanet.com>
> wrote:
>> > Aronia isn't a fruit to eat fresh. Even though it can develop high
> sugar
>> > (I've measured 23 Brix and more on ones I've tested) you can't eat that
> many
>> > before the astringency makes your mouth feel dry. The two main
> varieties
>> > are Nero and Viking. They top the list in productivity. Hidden Springs
>> > Nursery has them.
>> > -Lon Rombough
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> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:14:59 -0600
> From: "Brungardt, Sam" <Sam.Brungardt@state.mn.us>
> Subject: [NAFEX] smell of ginko fruits
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> What Do You Think Ginkgo Fruit Smells Like?
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://dcist.com/2008/12/10/what_do_yo
> u_think_ginkgo_fruit_smel.php&ct=ga&cd=DEACeEXrlrw&usg=AFQjCNEgHwnK0ZNha
> 0ZLp0sUylg5avEjLA>
> http://dcist.com/2008/12/10/what_do_you_think_ginkgo_fruit_smel.php
> DCist.com - Washington,DC,USA
> ... that the answer to Wonkette's inquiry from earlier this week about
> why downtown Washington "smells like dog-shit" right now is undoubtedly
> ginkgo fruit. ...
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> <http://dcist.com/2008/12/10/what_do_you_think_ginkgo_fruit_smel.php>
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